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  • The most frustrating thing about these kinds of cars in North America is that they are so weighed down with airbags and other safety essentials that they don't get much better mileage than a standard subcompact. A Scion iQ gets 37 MPG on the highway, which i less than a Ford Fiesta at 40 MPG. Meanwhile the iQ in Europe comes in at about 45 MPG.
  • squeezing her tiny Smart micro-car between two cars parked at meters

    If she does that to me she's going to find her micro-car crunched into a nano-car when I try to pull out.

    /ITG
  • Electrify: The most frustrating thing about these kinds of cars in North America is that they are so weighed down with airbags and other safety essentials that they don't get much better mileage than a standard subcompact. A Scion iQ gets 37 MPG on the highway, which i less than a Ford Fiesta at 40 MPG. Meanwhile the iQ in Europe comes in at about 45 MPG.


    You said it. 1982 Honda Civics got 50 to 60 MPG on the highway, and close to 50 around town.
  • Electrify: The most frustrating thing about these kinds of cars in North America is that they are so weighed down with airbags and other safety essentials that they don't get much better mileage than a standard subcompact. A Scion iQ gets 37 MPG on the highway, which i less than a Ford Fiesta at 40 MPG. Meanwhile the iQ in Europe comes in at about 45 MPG.


    I doubt the safety equipment is entirely to blame. Looks like the European model gets a smaller engine, 1.0L vs. 1.3L for the US market, and is not available here with the 1.4L turbo-diesel:

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  • In the 80s my Honda CRX was pulling ~575 miles on a tank that was a little bigger than 10 gallons.

    Now I ride a motorcycle that barely gets the mileage my CRX did.
  • St_Francis_P: I doubt the safety equipment is entirely to blame. Looks like the European model gets a smaller engine, 1.0L vs. 1.3L for the US market, and is not available here with the 1.4L turbo-diesel:


    I know it's an apples/oranges comparison, but my CRX had a 1.5 liter engine
  • This is why I love to drive my wife's Honda Fit. If you got the parking skills, that farker can be stuffed just about anywhere.
  • Electrify: The most frustrating thing about these kinds of cars in North America is that they are so weighed down with airbags and other safety essentials that they don't get much better mileage than a standard subcompact. A Scion iQ gets 37 MPG on the highway, which i less than a Ford Fiesta at 40 MPG. Meanwhile the iQ in Europe comes in at about 45 MPG.


    It would be cool if we could die screaming bloody deaths more often.
  • It would be cool if we could die screaming bloody deaths more often.

    There was an Orson Scott Card science fiction short story with that theme, but I forget the title. Probably from late 1970s or early 1980s.
  • How do the pollution controls compare here vs Europe?
  • Wherever I've lived it was illegal to park your car so that it overlapped two metered spaces.
  • St_Francis_P: Electrify: The most frustrating thing about these kinds of cars in North America is that they are so weighed down with airbags and other safety essentials that they don't get much better mileage than a standard subcompact. A Scion iQ gets 37 MPG on the highway, which i less than a Ford Fiesta at 40 MPG. Meanwhile the iQ in Europe comes in at about 45 MPG.

    I doubt the safety equipment is entirely to blame. Looks like the European model gets a smaller engine, 1.0L vs. 1.3L for the US market, and is not available here with the 1.4L turbo-diesel:

    Link

    Link


    One of the ways they tax cars is by displacement, and I believe some countries charge tolls that way.
  • I demand that the parking lines be repainted to fix this discrepancy. Equality for all.
  • The Smart car is designed to be parked nose-in/tail-in in a typical parallel spot.

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  • unyon: This is why I love to drive my wife's Honda Fit. If you got the parking skills, that farker can be stuffed just about anywhere.


    It has a decent sized back seat area and the trunk space is pretty roomy once you pull the rear seats down.
  • I predict one day she will come out to a busted headlight and dented front end, which she will be able to pay for with three months of saving $5 a day in parking fee's.
  • In Europe, it's not unusual to see two Smarts sharing a full size space that they paid for, and that's kosher. Some cities also have small end-in spaces for micro-cars, e.g. Rome. What this lady is doing is freeloading and clearly only works because she is the only person in her town doing it.
  • fjnorton: An they are so safe
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    You can die in a car accident regardless of the size of the vehicle.
  • Kraftwerk Orange: The Smart car is designed to be parked nose-in/tail-in in a typical parallel spot.


    I'm not going to be ITG but I would call whoever I could to get that care towed as it blocked me in. I don't know if that sort of option exists though as my parking is all done in lots.
  • You mean by parking illegally Subby? She's a pretentious biatch driving a shiatty car powered by smug. That $12,000+ car costs more, gets worse gas mileage, is less safe, and does more damage to the environment than dozens of adult vehicles.

    Good luck with her ever getting out of those tickets. Rules be rules... park in between the lines, not strattling them, 1 car per spot/meter... Think motorcyclists need 1 per space? No. Think it's legal for people just because they could park in between legal spaces to do so?

    If I was a cop, I'd hit my monthly quota in a day or two with nothing but cars like these parked illegally, expired registrations in public lots, failed parallel parking attempts, and people generally being idiots on the road (not signal lane changes, turning into lanes other than the proper one, people blocking traffic by going too slowly or by attempting to turn where there are no protected lanes and cutouts).
  • Electrify: The most frustrating thing about these kinds of cars in North America is that they are so weighed down with airbags and other safety essentials that they don't get much better mileage than a standard subcompact. A Scion iQ gets 37 MPG on the highway, which i less than a Ford Fiesta at 40 MPG. Meanwhile the iQ in Europe comes in at about 45 MPG.


    Are you sure that isn't due to an imperial gallon be equal to 1.2009 US gallons.?
  • BadReligion: Electrify: The most frustrating thing about these kinds of cars in North America is that they are so weighed down with airbags and other safety essentials that they don't get much better mileage than a standard subcompact. A Scion iQ gets 37 MPG on the highway, which i less than a Ford Fiesta at 40 MPG. Meanwhile the iQ in Europe comes in at about 45 MPG.

    Are you sure that isn't due to an imperial gallon being equal to 1.2009 US gallons?

  • Cars should be taxed by how much they pollute. Period.
    Emissions test only.
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