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  • And they better leave his Gran Torino the hell alone, too.
  • I wondered what Clint had been up to since the convention
  • MaudlinMutantMollusk: I wondered what Clint had been up to since the convention


    Chairs aren't going to yell at themselves, man.


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    Heh, I got a chuckle out of that - cheers!
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    /maybe some farkers will reach an epiphany
  • The man and the mans daughter deny he pointed it at anyone. And meeting armed strangers on your property similarly armed just seems prudent. They teach this shiat in hunter safety class, if you want to ask permission to hunt on someones land, you contact them well in advance with a friendly evening visit but try not to interrupt their dinner. You dont ask for permission to hunt at 5am on the first day of hunting season with your rifle in hand.
  • I really do not see a problem with this...

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  • Cyno01: The man and the mans daughter deny he pointed it at anyone. And meeting armed strangers on your property similarly armed just seems prudent. They teach this shiat in hunter safety class, if you want to ask permission to hunt on someones land, you contact them well in advance with a friendly evening visit but try not to interrupt their dinner. You dont ask for permission to hunt at 5am on the first day of hunting season with your rifle in hand.


    I'd think you also don't report the old man, assuming you have any intention of asking again. Hope he finds some other ways to keep them out.
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    Careful there. One's grizzled, the other's a codger. 

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    Which one are YOU??

    "Grizzled? Codger? Either way, I'm the man with the gun!"
  • Justice Deborah Austin said the man's reaction the visitors, who said they were there to ask permission to hunt on the land, was dangerous.

    Uh, you got that backwards, Dumborah. It was dangerous for the trespassers to trespass while carrying guns. Why not inflict punishment on the people who actually committed the crime?
  • ladyfortuna: Cyno01: The man and the mans daughter deny he pointed it at anyone. And meeting armed strangers on your property similarly armed just seems prudent. They teach this shiat in hunter safety class, if you want to ask permission to hunt on someones land, you contact them well in advance with a friendly evening visit but try not to interrupt their dinner. You dont ask for permission to hunt at 5am on the first day of hunting season with your rifle in hand.

    I'd think you also don't report the old man, assuming you have any intention of asking again. Hope he finds some other ways to keep them out.


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  • Kyle Butler: Here's a story about a guy who holds a group of teenagers hostage at gunpoint, not on his property, and doesn't even get indicted. Its' the Tennessee way


    Even the kids who were held didn't sound like they cared, so that's a bit different of a situation entirely.
  • Kyle Butler: Here in Tennessee I could shoot them and just tell the authorities I felt threatened.


    Here's a story about a guy who holds a group of teenagers hostage at gunpoint, not on his property, and doesn't even get indicted. Its' the Tennessee way


    Texas, too. Ironically enough, Stand Yer Ground kinda means you can shoot them because, due to SYG laws, they're able to legally kill you because you've got a gun. So they're a threat.

    Now you might say "no that's dumb, the visitor can't legally shoot at the owner just because the owner brandished a gun. The visitor could just back away and leave!!" But that's the WHOLE POINT OF SYG LAWS. The PRIOR legal standard was that there was a "duty to retreat" from a threat. At least TRY to retreat, somehow make the case that there was no way to do so. SYG's primary change, by design, is that you don't.

    A visitor isn't legally trespassing by coming up to the front door until asked to leave, there's an implicit invitation (back yard, no, you can't just jump the fence show up there). By this perverse loop of logic both the owner and visitor may kill one another legally under SYG, for no other reason whatsoever except than the other was going to kill them as per their right under SYG.
  • Won't someone come to the defense of the octogenarians?

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  • Kyle Butler: Here in Tennessee I could shoot them and just tell the authorities I felt threatened.


    Here's a story about a guy who holds a group of teenagers hostage at gunpoint, not on his property, and doesn't even get indicted. Its' the Tennessee way


    Canada has different gun laws than the United States. Hell, just about everyone has different gun laws than the United States.

    They don't let you make 'one phone call' up there either.
  • DAD?

    My dad has started losing it as he ages. He apparently accosted a guy who braked hard to make a turn into a driveway. "Well I felt violated because it scared me how hard we had to brake." I never heard how his court case turned out.

    I can't help but wonder if this guy is similarly deteriorating. Something that may have pissed him off 20 years ago now makes him feel like he's under attack.
  • Gosling: They don't let you make 'one phone call' up there either.


    They don't have to in the US either. All you have a right to is legal representation, not necessarily a phone call.
  • Not 'property' subby, 'lawn'
  • Cyno01: The man and the mans daughter deny he pointed it at anyone. And meeting armed strangers on your property similarly armed just seems prudent. They teach this shiat in hunter safety class, if you want to ask permission to hunt on someones land, you contact them well in advance with a friendly evening visit but try not to interrupt their dinner. You dont ask for permission to hunt at 5am on the first day of hunting season with your rifle in hand.


    Yeah, it's pretty much common sense you'd think... a little respect goes a long way. A bottle of their favorite hooch for them doesn't hurt either. We were invited back *many* times when I hunted in Montana just for that little bit of extra thanks.

    /fellow .303 Enfield owner

    fistbump
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  • On one hand; poachers need to DIAF. Tresspassors poaching on private land are a huge problem some places. They cause lots damage, don't know how to bury poop and shoot up other people's property. if they were asking for permission, they should have left their guns in the truck.

    On the other; you can't just wave your guns around every time someone comes to your front door.
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