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  • I read the headline and knew it was Austin. It took them over 3 1/2 years to jail my stepson after he gave a full confession when he was arrested.
  • Thank you, Mario!

    But our suspect is in another castle!
  • "During the course of preparing for trial, the prosecutor determined that there was additional physical evidence that should be tested," said Williamson County Attorney John Bradley.

    ...and what? you figured 'hey, he's probably guilty anyways so if we get to it then great, if not i'll still get a conviction anyway'?

    you just bought that guy a nice house...and put his grandkids through college.
  • Weaver95: you just bought that guy a nice house...and put his grandkids through college.


    Here's hoping it is so. The only way to make bureaucracies give a damn is to take money from them.
  • There are these things called "lawyers" that are expensive, but are much more effective if you don't open your big yap in front of the po po and give them a nice big sucker all hooked and ready to go.
  • Marcus Aurelius: There are these things called "lawyers" that are expensive, but are much more effective if you don't open your big yap in front of the po po and give them a nice big sucker all hooked and ready to go.


    I've often wondered just how much to blame procedural cop shows for that attitude. think about it - how many times on a cop show (CSI or one of the Law and Order clones) have you seen the show preach the idea that you can (almost always) trust the cops and prosecutors to do the right thing? even if you DO see a 'bad cop' type episode, it's always found out and it's always 'just the one guy gone bad' and everything is cleaned up at the end.

    granted, those shows are fantasy...but they DO push the propaganda point that you can trust the cops and that relying on your rights is something 'only bad people do'.
  • Weaver95: Marcus Aurelius: There are these things called "lawyers" that are expensive, but are much more effective if you don't open your big yap in front of the po po and give them a nice big sucker all hooked and ready to go.

    I've often wondered just how much to blame procedural cop shows for that attitude. think about it - how many times on a cop show (CSI or one of the Law and Order clones) have you seen the show preach the idea that you can (almost always) trust the cops and prosecutors to do the right thing? even if you DO see a 'bad cop' type episode, it's always found out and it's always 'just the one guy gone bad' and everything is cleaned up at the end.

    granted, those shows are fantasy...but they DO push the propaganda point that you can trust the cops and that relying on your rights is something 'only bad people do'.


    What kills me is the idea that you open your mouth without your lawyer present. Of course, if they did that on TV, it wouldn't make for much of a show. "The Closer" wouldn't have gone past pilot.

    "Sorry Brenda, they all lawyered up!"
  • Marcus Aurelius:

    What kills me is the idea that you open your mouth without your lawyer present. Of course, if they did that on TV, it wouldn't make for much of a show. "The Closer" wouldn't have gone past pilot.

    "Sorry Brenda, they all lawyered up!"


    I tell all my friends - I don't care HOW innocent you are, STFU and get a lawyer. DO NOT talk to the cops without a lawyer present. it is never in your best interest.
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  • Marcus Aurelius: There are these things called "lawyers" that are expensive, but are much more effective if you don't open your big yap in front of the po po and give them a nice big sucker all hooked and ready to go.


    It ought to be taught in schools: "Do not say anything to the police. They are not your friends. They will not help you. Anything you say will be used against you whether you broke the law or not."
  • Weaver95: I tell all my friends - I don't care HOW innocent you are, STFU and get a lawyer. DO NOT talk to the cops without a lawyer present. it is never in your best interest.


    Sage advice. If I'm grilled for a crime I know I didn't commit, I'm still not saying sh*t except for "thank you" if they get me a soft drink. I don't care how guilty it makes me look. Talking to the cops is NEVER, EVER, EVER a good idea if you are the one being grilled.

    Even when you're innocent, they'll find a way to twist your statements. Plenty (but certainly not all) cops are more concerned with clearance than justice. Your rights are more important than not wanting to frustrate some police officers who couldn't give two sh*ts about you in the first place. I don't care what they say to you or threaten you with - keep your whore mouth shut. That way it can't possibly get any worse. Yes, you might want to loudly protest your innocence, but don't. Clamming up is the only weapon you have against a system that sometimes railroads people for the sheer f*ck of it.
  • dickfreckle: Weaver95: I tell all my friends - I don't care HOW innocent you are, STFU and get a lawyer. DO NOT talk to the cops without a lawyer present. it is never in your best interest.

    Sage advice. If I'm grilled for a crime I know I didn't commit, I'm still not saying sh*t except for "thank you" if they get me a soft drink. I don't care how guilty it makes me look. Talking to the cops is NEVER, EVER, EVER a good idea if you are the one being grilled.

    Even when you're innocent, they'll find a way to twist your statements. Plenty (but certainly not all) cops are more concerned with clearance than justice. Your rights are more important than not wanting to frustrate some police officers who couldn't give two sh*ts about you in the first place. I don't care what they say to you or threaten you with - keep your whore mouth shut. That way it can't possibly get any worse. Yes, you might want to loudly protest your innocence, but don't. Clamming up is the only weapon you have against a system that sometimes railroads people for the sheer f*ck of it.


    actually, the only thing you should say to the cops is 'am I under arrest?' and 'I want a lawyer'. if they say you aren't under arrest...leave and get lawyer. if they arrest you, STFU and say 'I want a lawyer'. keep repeating that any time the cops ask you a question. oh - and it should go without saying but...STFU while in custody. don't talk about your situation with fellow inmates.
  • dickfreckle: Weaver95: I tell all my friends - I don't care HOW innocent you are, STFU and get a lawyer. DO NOT talk to the cops without a lawyer present. it is never in your best interest.

    Sage advice. If I'm grilled for a crime I know I didn't commit, I'm still not saying sh*t except for "thank you" if they get me a soft drink. I don't care how guilty it makes me look. Talking to the cops is NEVER, EVER, EVER a good idea if you are the one being grilled.

    Even when you're innocent, they'll find a way to twist your statements. Plenty (but certainly not all) cops are more concerned with clearance than justice. Your rights are more important than not wanting to frustrate some police officers who couldn't give two sh*ts about you in the first place. I don't care what they say to you or threaten you with - keep your whore mouth shut. That way it can't possibly get any worse. Yes, you might want to loudly protest your innocence, but don't. Clamming up is the only weapon you have against a system that sometimes railroads people for the sheer f*ck of it.


    I'd honestly be suspicious of anything they'd give me. There's no way to know what they did to it.
  • Weaver95: Marcus Aurelius: There are these things called "lawyers" that are expensive, but are much more effective if you don't open your big yap in front of the po po and give them a nice big sucker all hooked and ready to go.

    I've often wondered just how much to blame procedural cop shows for that attitude. think about it - how many times on a cop show (CSI or one of the Law and Order clones) have you seen the show preach the idea that you can (almost always) trust the cops and prosecutors to do the right thing? even if you DO see a 'bad cop' type episode, it's always found out and it's always 'just the one guy gone bad' and everything is cleaned up at the end.

    granted, those shows are fantasy...but they DO push the propaganda point that you can trust the cops and that relying on your rights is something 'only bad people do'.


    What what what? Cops lie to dig out information all the time on tv , and plenty involve bad or wrong cops.

    Maybe I get a very different sampling of L&O reruns than you.
  • simplicimus: I read the headline and knew it was Austin. It took them over 3 1/2 years to jail my stepson after he gave a full confession when he was arrested.



    Not Austin, it's Williamson County. A terrible place to get arrested in.

    They sent an innocent man to jail for 25 years, due to incompetent police work and maniacal prosecution.

    Then, when DNA evidence was highly likely to show he didn't do it, fought tooth and nail against having said evidence tested because it would for no better reason, in their words, "muddy the waters". Justice be damned.

    The DA at the time, now a sitting judge, will likely be disbarred and faces charges and inquiries typically reserved for highly corrupt public officials.
  • The person saying the evidence points to someone else is the defense attourney, not the state.

    The state is saying that some of the evidence hasn't been processed yet and it's unreasonable to hold him any longer while waiting on the lab, even though he is still the primary suspect.

    Basically, dude should still watch his back around the cops and generally keep his nose clean, even though he's not currently formally charged anymore.
  • I hate rent-a-cops too.
  • Any Fark U. lawyers able to comment as to when the sixth amendment kicks in?
  • You should never, ever, EVER talk to a cop without a lawyer present. Name, address, DOB. Then it's lawyer time. Remain calm and respectful, but keep your yap shut. It's less about cops "twisting what you say" and more that everything you DO say is going to be recorded, written down, and scrutinized at some point. They are trained to weedle out information and to look for inconsistencies. Keep in mind that cops are lied to ALL THE TIME and after a while, they start to believe that everyone is a liar and everything being said is a lie.

    Lawyer up. Unless you were caught doing something incredibly suspicious, a cop isn't going to think you're "acting guilty" by refusing to chat without a lawyer present. They'll think you're smart. And even if you're caught red-farking-handed, lawyer up. Protect your dumbass self.

    And yes, cop procedurals have totally skewed the way the public thinks about law enforcement. They're incredibly unrealistic and don't represent "the job" in any way that even vaguely mimics reality. "The Wire" (kinda sorta) and "The First 48" are a couple of exceptions to that rule, but "CSI" and their ilk are farking dumb.

    /was a police
    //really misses being a police :(
  • TheDirtyNacho: simplicimus: I read the headline and knew it was Austin. It took them over 3 1/2 years to jail my stepson after he gave a full confession when he was arrested.


    Not Austin, it's Williamson County. A terrible place to get arrested in.

    They sent an innocent man to jail for 25 years, due to incompetent police work and maniacal prosecution.

    Then, when DNA evidence was highly likely to show he didn't do it, fought tooth and nail against having said evidence tested because it would for no better reason, in their words, "muddy the waters". Justice be damned.

    The DA at the time, now a sitting judge, will likely be disbarred and faces charges and inquiries typically reserved for highly corrupt public officials.


    All the cop hate, often justified, yet I have always blamed prosecutors, judges, and voters more.
  • I can't even begin to imagine the mental torture of sitting in a jail cell for an extended period of time accused of a crime you know you didn't commit.
  • TheDirtyNacho: simplicimus: I read the headline and knew it was Austin. It took them over 3 1/2 years to jail my stepson after he gave a full confession when he was arrested.


    Not Austin, it's Williamson County. A terrible place to get arrested in.

    They sent an innocent man to jail for 25 years, due to incompetent police work and maniacal prosecution.

    Then, when DNA evidence was highly likely to show he didn't do it, fought tooth and nail against having said evidence tested because it would for no better reason, in their words, "muddy the waters". Justice be damned.

    The DA at the time, now a sitting judge, will likely be disbarred and faces charges and inquiries typically reserved for highly corrupt public officials.


    Bought a house there when i moved from cali. Put it on the market to sell at a loss and leave in less than a year. That debt was worth every day i got out of that place early.
  • Pichu0102: dickfreckle: Weaver95: I tell all my friends - I don't care HOW innocent you are, STFU and get a lawyer. DO NOT talk to the cops without a lawyer present. it is never in your best interest.

    Sage advice. If I'm grilled for a crime I know I didn't commit, I'm still not saying sh*t except for "thank you" if they get me a soft drink. I don't care how guilty it makes me look. Talking to the cops is NEVER, EVER, EVER a good idea if you are the one being grilled.

    Even when you're innocent, they'll find a way to twist your statements. Plenty (but certainly not all) cops are more concerned with clearance than justice. Your rights are more important than not wanting to frustrate some police officers who couldn't give two sh*ts about you in the first place. I don't care what they say to you or threaten you with - keep your whore mouth shut. That way it can't possibly get any worse. Yes, you might want to loudly protest your innocence, but don't. Clamming up is the only weapon you have against a system that sometimes railroads people for the sheer f*ck of it.

    I'd honestly be suspicious of anything they'd give me. There's no way to know what they did to it.


    They can also take and use DNA samples from anything you touch, or claim to do so if that suits them.
    Sue every one of these racist motherf*ckers and keep going until they are bankrupt and all gone.
    At present there is no culpability for 'people in positions of authority' that lie, misuse or disregard evidence or testimony. They can do whatever they want and if they were held responsible for their actions it would be a whole different story.
    Let's make it happen. These kinds of stories fill me with rage as they should do to all of us.
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