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  • Im no cop.

    Redbones for lunch on Wednesdays. Spin the wheel. Drink lots of beer. Yup, we're pretty much done for the day.
  • This just in: everyone tries to take long lunches, leave early, and still get paid for it.

    It isn't the best practice, but we all try it from time to time.
  • Speaking as a member of the public, is this such a bad thing?
  • Pfft.. no biggy. Some IT people go home for a long lunch of "afternoon delight."
  • Enemabag Jones: Speaking as a member of the public, is this such a bad thing?


    Will you please think of the chillin
  • Off-duty cops are still on-call right? They have the car, the radio, the gun...

    I see no problems...
  • Well, obviously we should privatize the police force, reduce their pay by half, take away their benefits and give tax breaks to the wealthy. THAT will fix everything,
  • And if they weren't doing this, the media would be slamming them for taking too much overtime.
  • Enemabag Jones: Speaking as a member of the public, is this such a bad thing?


    Yes! Ebil gubmint workers aren't allowed to do anything that private workers could do, but are bullied from not doing every day! If you are an ebil gubmint worker, you are our slave!

    /Unless you're a Senator, then you are our money pit!
  • Was the Obvious tag at lunch or something?
  • INeedAName: This just in: everyone tries to take long lunches, leave early, and still get paid for it.

    It isn't the best practice, but we all try it from time to time.


    Yes, but with government employees it is more far moe routine be it cops, the paper shufflers at the VA or some GS something or another at a local miltary base.

    Not so cool story bro Have this friend whose sister works for a federal agency up north Whole office is career civil service with by her own admission not much to do. Once a week one person stays behind to answer the phone while the rest, to include their supervisor go play golf or bowling. Needless to say long luches and short days are routine.

    Other not so cool story bro

    Two police officers fired for working security jobs at the same time they were on shift doing their regular police jobs . Instead of patrolling streets they were were working private security but getting paid for both. They were caught when a supeviosr from another sector happen to see them. Problem is only they were fired. Other officers, mauybe even their supervisor, had to be covering for them.


    Cops may have an activity sheet where they have to show how many tickets written, types of arrests , DUIs arrests they have made.. Actual quotas may be illegal in your location but they simply replace them with things like "shift averages" ie Does officer Jones write about as many speeding ticksets as everyone else? Does he make at least one DWI/DUI arrest a month stuff like that But if one or two days a week the officer does not show a lot of activity no big deal as long as the monthly numbers look OK when their bosses create paperwork to justify their existence.

    The problem with many government jobs is that no results are required and even if there are it is extremely hard to fire a government employee. Despite al the horror stories you hear about places like the VA when was the last time you heard about a VA employee getting fired? In most private sector jobs you have to show some productivity for how you spend your time. In government is might be just a certain volumn of paper work to be genreated and not even genreated correctly.

    My very eldelry father, a veteran, commented about a difference he noticed between VA hospitals and civilian ones. It was the intensity. In the civilian hosptal everybody always seemed busy, staff was always rushing around. In the VA facilties, depsite the number of people waitng to be seen it was a more of we will get to it when we get to it atmosphere. Staff standing in the hall BSing etc.
  • Pick: I got news for you 47%ers. Taking away tax breaks on the rich won't raise squat for the deficit. It's just a "thing" to appease voters.

    Deep spending cuts is the only answer.


    Read an article somewhere (might have been through Fark) that said if the Federal Government took every penny from the rich people (billionaires, millionaires, etc) it would only run the government for about 3-4 months.. then what? Wait another 8-14 yrs to build up that kind of wealth again to fund anotherr for 3-4 months?

    Don't get me wrong.. that's a buttload of money, but if that's even half true, spending cuts seem unavoidable...
  • Well, obviously we should privatize the police force, reduce their pay by half, take away their benefits and give tax breaks to the wealthy. THAT will fix everything,

    Hey, it has worked for most of America.
  • ghare: Well, obviously we should privatize the police force, reduce their pay by half, take away their benefits and give tax breaks to the wealthy. THAT will fix everything,


    Make them work for tips???
  • Just a polite little reminder that it is not only the police that create the problems, it can be the management creating problems.

    Link

    /For the record, I would rather have a lazy cops hang out in his home then be forced to make the decisions above effecting people's lives.
  • IlGreven: Enemabag Jones: Speaking as a member of the public, is this such a bad thing?

    Yes! Ebil gubmint workers aren't allowed to do anything that private workers could do, but are bullied from not doing every day! If you are an ebil gubmint worker, you are our slave!

    /Unless you're a Senator, then you are our money pit!



    What private workers are allowed to do that?

    /you must be thinking of other government jobs
  • ghare: Well, obviously we should privatize the police force, reduce their pay by half, take away their benefits and give tax breaks to the wealthy. THAT will fix everything,


    I know this is sarcasm, but you CANNOT privatize law enforcement in the United States. Rural/Metro tried to do it in Arizona at the local level in some of the small towns in the 1970s, and the Appellate Courts in the states blocked them from doing so.
  • Thanks for reporting this breaking news, Ric.
  • This reminds me of the time I saw a car getting broken into and then saw a cop car with two cops in it a block away and just around the corner. I walked up and they were talking about where to go eat. I told them about the break-in in progress and they said they would handle it. They drove a block up to where I said it was happening on the left, kept driving about 8 blocks and then turned right. Which is in the general direction of a bunch of local food shops.
  • I once saw a rural cop allowed to take off early just because he'd accidentally had his head slammed into the sidewalk.
  • I have no problem with them taking extra long lunches. Restaurants are frequently targets for robbery and them being there deters criminals.
  • diaphoresis: Was the Obvious tag at lunch or something?


    ...went home early. Said it'd be WFH.
  • They must do things pretty different in Florida than they do around here. Don't these guys ever get dispatched to anything? Don't car wrecks or burglar alarms or civilian complaints happen?

    This certainly couldn't happen in the city I work for. The dispatchers know where the cops are to within about a block, and if they realize they've lost track of one they ask for a location. They're sending closest units to calls at a fairly consistant rate, and they'd notice pretty quick if someone had disappeared.
    The cops don't take home their cruisers, they have to report for roll call at the beginning of their shift and turn in car keys at the end. An environment where cutting out early, especially this early and this often, is confusing to me. I just don't see how it would work.
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