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  • Those police were helping those people. It was funk night and they heard that the roof was on fire.
  • "To serve and protect.... oh fark that, let's beat some ass!"
  • And people claim unions ruined Detroit...
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    Pictured: Police patrolling the American city of Detroit.
  • And this is why I've been a card-carrying member for 14 years.

    Suck it, haters.
  • The judge's opinion is linked from http://www.aclumich.org/CAID.

    There is some risk that it will be reversed on appeal. While patrons are not responsible for asking to see the liquor license, an appeals court could decide the totality of the circumstances raised enough suspicion to hold them responsible. Once you say they should have known the party was illegal, the vehicle forfeiture becomes legal.

    The complaint alleged excessive force by arresting officers. They knew it was one of eight officers, but were "unable to identify the specific officers who allegedly engaged in excessive force." So they lost. That reminds of a case from my area. Police stole valuable jewelry from a guy they arrested. The thief was one of a few known arresting officers, but each of them denied all knowledge. There is no government liability for theft from a prisoner here. ("Detention of goods" exception.) You have to name the specific officer responsible.
  • submitter: illegal raids

    The raid was authorized by a search warrant to look for evidence of violation of liquor laws. The warrant was supported by probable cause and in fact there were violations of liquor laws. When police went in they were acting legally.

    What the judge found illegal was the policy of arresting everybody present at such events without reason to believe that each person arrested had committed a crime.
  • Soon after the event, the ACLU of Michigan (American Civil Liberties Union) got involved and police dropped the loitering charges against 130 people, yet they held the patrons' cars in impound, telling them it would be $900 to get them back, plus towing and storage.

    Shakedown!
  • ZAZ: The judge's opinion is linked from http://www.aclumich.org/CAID.

    There is some risk that it will be reversed on appeal. While patrons are not responsible for asking to see the liquor license, an appeals court could decide the totality of the circumstances raised enough suspicion to hold them responsible. Once you say they should have known the party was illegal, the vehicle forfeiture becomes legal.

    The complaint alleged excessive force by arresting officers. They knew it was one of eight officers, but were "unable to identify the specific officers who allegedly engaged in excessive force." So they lost. That reminds of a case from my area. Police stole valuable jewelry from a guy they arrested. The thief was one of a few known arresting officers, but each of them denied all knowledge. There is no government liability for theft from a prisoner here. ("Detention of goods" exception.) You have to name the specific officer responsible.


    All cops are criminals.
    The innocent ones were guilty of conspiracy after the fact.
    fark em
  • I thought Prohibition ended.
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    Pictured: Police patrolling the American city of Detroit.


    Wait a sec...that can't be a picture of Detroit.

    That building in the background is still in tact.
  • Lionel Mandrake: And this is why I've been a card-carrying member for 14 years.

    Suck it, haters.


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    Before it was cool, right?
  • "In a free country, the police may not conduct commando-style raids on innocent people and seize their property without justification," said Dan Korobkin, ACLU

    Yet, they can here, and regularly do. Ergo...
  • ZAZ: submitter: illegal raids

    The raid was authorized by a search warrant to look for evidence of violation of liquor laws. The warrant was supported by probable cause and in fact there were violations of liquor laws. When police went in they were acting legally.

    What the judge found illegal was the policy of arresting everybody present at such events without reason to believe that each person arrested had committed a crime.


    Arresting and confiscating their cars. And then saying "oh, you can have your car back for 900 bucks.". It was a shakedown. Another way for corrupt Detroit to make money off its people.
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    This is Lt Vicki Yost who was the senior officer responsible for the raid.

    She previously pled the 5th regarding a wrongful death where another cop shot someone. The police department lost that case and 6 million dollars. She attempted to cover it up. The police should have settled instead of her weak attempts at defense. Furthermore, to plead the fifth in court iIn other words she should not be a cop in any jurisdiction. 

    Looks like she got a promotion:

    She is now inspector.
  • Hector Remarkable: "In a free country, the police may not conduct commando-style raids on innocent people and seize their property without justification," said Dan Korobkin, ACLU

    Yet, they can here, and regularly do. Ergo...


    I think I see the problem.
  • Lionel Mandrake: And this is why I've been a card-carrying member for 14 years.

    Suck it, haters.


    Does that card somehow entitle you to special treatment or something?
  • leevis: Lionel Mandrake: And this is why I've been a card-carrying member for 14 years.

    Suck it, haters.

    Does that card somehow entitle you to special treatment or something?


    It makes his farts smell like roses.
  • Because People in power are Stupid: Looks like she got a promotion:

    She is now inspector.



    Blue wall always works, any cop in a large department with a good heart and any humanity is quickly passed over and eventually quits out of frustration, I have seen it happen time after time.
  • and people wonder why libertarians worry about a police state...
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    Haters gonna hate....



    Seriously, though, WTF are these people thinking.... oh right, this is Detroit. Just sit in one city council meeting or hang around city hall and you'll wonder why they let the inmates run the place. Too many people in charge have a severe disconnect with reality. Bing is an improvement, but it's hard to fight decades of corruption and entitlement culture.
  • leevis: Does that card somehow entitle you to special treatment or something?


    There is a lengthy legal precedent, going back to 1789, whereby a card carrying member can claim self-defense against an agent of the government, if that act is deemed a defense against tyranny, a defense of liberty.
  • leevis: Lionel Mandrake: And this is why I've been a card-carrying member for 14 years.

    Suck it, haters.

    Does that card somehow entitle you to special treatment or something?


    It's evidence of doing a lot more for the cause of liberty than posting shiat on the Internet
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