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    We can't watch Fox because they own those chemical weapons plants in Syria
  • so, do we trust the entire world when they tell us they have chemical weapons? They were wrong last time.....
  • They were totally taking them to a hazardous waste disposal site.
  • What happens when the regime gets really desperate? This is no time to let your guard down if you are a rebel.
  • Like I said before, call me when they've got yellow cake and mobile bioweapons labs.
  • If they did combine them in warheads, I think they have ~60 days to use them before they begin degrading.
  • The Stealth Hippopotamus: so, do we trust the entire world when they tell us they have chemical weapons? They were wrong last time.....


    I think you've got the telling and the trusting a bit mixed up
  • A US Carrier Battle Group will do that...
  • Good.
    As long as those greasy-bearded hotheads cool their jets it keeps the cost of oil down.
  • "Nooo. We weren't messing with chemical weapons. We were just...uh, making sure they were still where we left them. Yeah."
  • crypticsatellite: If they did combine them in warheads, I think they have ~60 days to use them before they begin degrading.


    Binary weapons don't degrade. Sarin, weeks to months. No reports of VX.
  • Because the "intelligence" we get from the East is so excellent and generally trustworthy.

    CIA is a broken and sdrippled tool.
  • You know, it's moderately hypocritical to go after a country for having the same weapons we've had since WWI. If we have any rationale to have them ourselves for defense or testing, then how can other countries be held to a different standard? And we can't even dismiss them for accidental releases - google "dugway sheep incident".

    //yes, I know we're reducing our stocks, but anyone is kidding themselves if they think that quantity will ever reach 0.
  • that was "crippled" last time i looked
  • The Stealth Hippopotamus: so, do we trust the entire world when they tell us they have chemical weapons? They were wrong last time.....


    There are some claiming that it's the SAME chemical weapons, that Saddam moved them to Syria so that's why nothing was found. Thus conveniently giving a reason why they were never found so "we weren't wrong that time, and must act the same way against the same weapons set now that it's in Syria".

    It's not impossible that Saddam had all this stuff and moved it to Syria. But there'd need to be more evidence to support it.

    It just seems implausible that a vast operation would be moved and leave no evidence behind. Well, it's plausible when you have a lot of resources and a tightly run operation. But that picture was refuted after the invasion- the country and its industry was quite sloppy, pretty destitute outside the palaces and that includes the military, and it just doesn't make sense that they shipped this stuff off to Syria in secret and left no trace and no credible witnesses.
  • Galloping Galoshes: crypticsatellite: If they did combine them in warheads, I think they have ~60 days to use them before they begin degrading.

    Binary weapons don't degrade. Sarin, weeks to months. No reports of VX.


    Binary weapons when mixed can degrade. They have apparently mixed them and loaded them.
  • Somaticasual: You know, it's moderately hypocritical to go after a country for having the same weapons we've had since WWI. If we have any rationale to have them ourselves for defense or testing, then how can other countries be held to a different standard? And we can't even dismiss them for accidental releases - google "dugway sheep incident".

    //yes, I know we're reducing our stocks, but anyone is kidding themselves if they think that quantity will ever reach 0.


    First, because we're bigger than they are. Second, because we (and the Russians) have shown over time that we won't use them, whereas in the Middle East, the regimes there have not shown themselves full of restraint. Syria has already used them against its own people, Iraq used them against Iran, and on the Kurds, Yemenis used them on each other, etc.
  • crypticsatellite: Galloping Galoshes: crypticsatellite: If they did combine them in warheads, I think they have ~60 days to use them before they begin degrading.

    Binary weapons don't degrade. Sarin, weeks to months. No reports of VX.

    Binary weapons when mixed can degrade. They have apparently mixed them and loaded them.


    Binary weapons are weapons where two chemical precursors are loaded into separate chambers within the same warhead. This makes the loaded weapon safer to handle, and prevents degradation (unless the precursors themselves degrade). They're mixed on firing, or while in flight. They will certainly degrade after that.
  • The Stealth Hippopotamus: so, do we trust the entire world when they tell us they have chemical weapons? They were wrong last time.....


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    And here is more to help with your ignorance. Link
  • This is a blatant lie. They already used them. I saw the video on YouTube. They used the gas that makes paint and tissue paper stick to your face and arms and makes you wrap your hands with cloth. Sure it isn't exactly a deadly weapon but it has to be embarrassing. Besides, chemical weapons are a slippery slope. Next thing you know they will be using metallic gold paint.
  • cgraves67: "Nooo. We weren't messing with chemical weapons. We were just...uh, making sure they were still where we left them. Yeah."


    a totally outrageous thing to do when theres a civil war on, yeah?
  • david_gaithersburg: The Stealth Hippopotamus: so, do we trust the entire world when they tell us they have chemical weapons? They were wrong last time.....

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    And here is more to help with your ignorance. Link


    There is mile or two of political difference between being "wrong" and "failing to find ".
  • Galloping Galoshes: crypticsatellite: Galloping Galoshes: crypticsatellite: If they did combine them in warheads, I think they have ~60 days to use them before they begin degrading.

    Binary weapons don't degrade. Sarin, weeks to months. No reports of VX.

    Binary weapons when mixed can degrade. They have apparently mixed them and loaded them.

    Binary weapons are weapons where two chemical precursors are loaded into separate chambers within the same warhead. This makes the loaded weapon safer to handle, and prevents degradation (unless the precursors themselves degrade). They're mixed on firing, or while in flight. They will certainly degrade after that.


    I know what binary weapons are, but they are not always mixed immediately pre-flight or inflight; they are sometimes mixed ahead of time and then put into warheads. This is what I read had occurred and why the US, et. al. were so concerned.
  • Tyrants pull out chemical weapons.

    U.S. President sticks a carrier battle group up said tyrants' asses.

    Tyrants put chemical weapons away.

    // That's how a "deterrent" is supposed to work.
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