Dr. Doyle is focusing on the zone, between normal use and alcoholism diagnosis-the so-called almost alcoholic range. Here, the risk of things like insomnia, diabetes and cancer can increase.
Really? I find putting away a 12er a night takes care of that problem.
Brenda Wilhelmson believes she was an almost alcoholic. She confides, "It turned into a way that I rewarded myself at the end of the day, and it just escalated from there. I was basically drinking myself to sleep every night."
That's called alcoholism, sweetie. Nothing almost about it.
TheBeastOfYuccaFlats:This article is the equivalent of my friend's mom thinking I'm an alcoholic because I have a large array of liquor bottles in my kitchen.
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Dr. Robert Doyle, a psychiatrist, researcher, and author
There's a lot of money to be made in convincing people they're broken and that you can fix them.
This approach to measuring and treating alcohol use/dependency is very beneficial, in that it doesn't attempt to paint lower level users as full-blown alcoholics, which is not only inaccurate but also leads them to reject suggestions that they may have anything to deal with.
A lot of behaviors that can have negative effects appear accross a wide spectrum, not just at one end or the other.
I think that this approach is a step in the right direction - but of course it will be lambasted by two groups: the folks with somewhat unhealthy drinking patterns who reject any suggestion they should alter behavior and the AA recovering alcoholics who insist that anyone who drinks is a dangerous addict.
I couldnt get my score but I suspect it may have been the same. I drink so much less now. Hell a bottle of rum will last me longer than a month now. But I still hide it from my alcoholic roomate
cefm:This approach to measuring and treating alcohol use/dependency is very beneficial, in that it doesn't attempt to paint lower level users as full-blown alcoholics, which is not only inaccurate but also leads them to reject suggestions that they may have anything to deal with.
A lot of behaviors that can have negative effects appear accross a wide spectrum, not just at one end or the other.
I think that this approach is a step in the right direction - but of course it will be lambasted by two groups: the folks with somewhat unhealthy drinking patterns who reject any suggestion they should alter behavior and the AA recovering alcoholics who insist that anyone who drinks is a dangerous addict.
Thanks for saying this. I used to imbibe way more than I do nowadays. I changed my behavior and now drink in moderation (mostly). I realize that some people are unable to control their drinking and destructive behavior it causes, but I really do think there are a lot more people who over-indulge to which the AA model does not apply.
sigdiamond2000:TheBeastOfYuccaFlats: This article is the equivalent of my friend's mom thinking I'm an alcoholic because I have a large array of liquor bottles in my kitchen.
FTFA:
Dr. Robert Doyle, a psychiatrist, researcher, and author
There's a lot of money to be made in convincing people they're broken and that you can fix them.
No sh*t. Wow, he's got a book out just in time for the dysfunctional family holiday gatherings.
#7 How often have you felt guilt or remorse after drinking? The question does not define a causal relationship - you could well be feeling guilt or remorse for something that has no connection to alcohol at all. Should rephrase to "guilt or remorse for something caused by or influenced by your drinking"
#10 - Has a relative or friend or coworker or a doctor expressed concern over your drinking? The doctor part is OK, but the other 3 may have screwed up subjective views on drinking or on you - so the question itself leads to possibly inaccurate answers.
Really? I find putting away a 12er a night takes care of that problem.
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That's called alcoholism, sweetie. Nothing almost about it.
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Friday night, see how you do with two beers."That was the point where I began getting concerned.
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Just kidding, it's a 6.
/would have been more like a 20 in college
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dahmers love zombie: Dr. Doyle suggests, "If you're having four beers on Monday morning Friday night, see how you do with two beers."
That was the point where I began getting concerned.
Yeah no shiat. Depending on your metabolism and weight, 4 beers in one night is pretty much nothing.
This article is the equivalent of my friend's mom thinking I'm an alcoholic because I have a large array of liquor bottles in my kitchen.
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antidisestablishmentarianism: I scored a 12. I thought it would be much worse.
10 here, and me too....
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twoeight beers."FTFM.
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It's probably because I don't drink when I get up. At noon. On a weekday.
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It is possible that I am wicked boring but have a good, strong liver. :-|
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TheBeastOfYuccaFlats: This article is the equivalent of my friend's mom thinking I'm an alcoholic because I have a large array of liquor bottles in my kitchen.
FTFA:
Dr. Robert Doyle, a psychiatrist, researcher, and author
There's a lot of money to be made in convincing people they're broken and that you can fix them.
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A lot of behaviors that can have negative effects appear accross a wide spectrum, not just at one end or the other.
I think that this approach is a step in the right direction - but of course it will be lambasted by two groups: the folks with somewhat unhealthy drinking patterns who reject any suggestion they should alter behavior and the AA recovering alcoholics who insist that anyone who drinks is a dangerous addict.
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Gordian Cipher: Woo! High score!
Just kidding, it's a 6.
/would have been more like a 20 in college
I couldnt get my score but I suspect it may have been the same. I drink so much less now. Hell a bottle of rum will last me longer than a month now. But I still hide it from my alcoholic roomate
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*shrug*
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cefm: This approach to measuring and treating alcohol use/dependency is very beneficial, in that it doesn't attempt to paint lower level users as full-blown alcoholics, which is not only inaccurate but also leads them to reject suggestions that they may have anything to deal with.
A lot of behaviors that can have negative effects appear accross a wide spectrum, not just at one end or the other.
I think that this approach is a step in the right direction - but of course it will be lambasted by two groups: the folks with somewhat unhealthy drinking patterns who reject any suggestion they should alter behavior and the AA recovering alcoholics who insist that anyone who drinks is a dangerous addict.
Thanks for saying this. I used to imbibe way more than I do nowadays. I changed my behavior and now drink in moderation (mostly). I realize that some people are unable to control their drinking and destructive behavior it causes, but I really do think there are a lot more people who over-indulge to which the AA model does not apply.
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sigdiamond2000: TheBeastOfYuccaFlats: This article is the equivalent of my friend's mom thinking I'm an alcoholic because I have a large array of liquor bottles in my kitchen.
FTFA:
Dr. Robert Doyle, a psychiatrist, researcher, and author
There's a lot of money to be made in convincing people they're broken and that you can fix them.
No sh*t. Wow, he's got a book out just in time for the dysfunctional family holiday gatherings.
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#7 How often have you felt guilt or remorse after drinking?
The question does not define a causal relationship - you could well be feeling guilt or remorse for something that has no connection to alcohol at all. Should rephrase to "guilt or remorse for something caused by or influenced by your drinking"
#10 - Has a relative or friend or coworker or a doctor expressed concern over your drinking?
The doctor part is OK, but the other 3 may have screwed up subjective views on drinking or on you - so the question itself leads to possibly inaccurate answers.
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