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  • There is a shocker. Its never about safety
  • Well, duh. For profit law enforcement for the win.
  • I really really hate speed and red light revenue generators er I mean safety enforcing cameras.
  • It's painfully obvious what they're for. If speed was a real issue, they'd deploy measures to encourage people to slow down at the moment (rumble strips, an unoccupied cop car parked in the construction zone, a "your speed" radar sign, etc.), not something that sends them a ticket in the mail weeks after. And why wouldn't they leave them on 24/7? Would you shut off a camera if it was raking in thousands in free money each day?

    These things should be illegal. Period. If a place needs speed enforcement, put a cop there.
  • I've always thought running one of those little white camera jeeps would make a great 2nd job. Sit there all evening reading a magazine or newspaper or book. The state even built little nooks for them out of jersey walls so they won't get hit. There's even a porta-john on site for each jeep. Easy way to make some extra scratch.
  • Oh! Oh! Oh! Is it BECAUSE IT'S A DAMN WORK ZONE WITH EQUIPMENT AND HORSESHOES EVEN WHEN NO ONE IS AROUND?

    God, speeders will find any justification for their bad behavior.
  • pag1107: I've always thought running one of those little white camera jeeps would make a great 2nd job. Sit there all evening reading a magazine or newspaper or book. The state even built little nooks for them out of jersey walls so they won't get hit. There's even a porta-john on site for each jeep. Easy way to make some extra scratch.


    You also earn the scorn of everyone going past you.
  • I'm all for speed cameras, especially in Work Zones and School Zones. Have you ever been on a construction site on the side of the road and had people pass you at highway speeds? It's ridiculous.
  • This is what you get when you cut taxes. They have to find other ways to find revenue.
  • JosephFinn: Oh! Oh! Oh! Is it BECAUSE IT'S A DAMN WORK ZONE WITH EQUIPMENT AND HORSESHOES EVEN WHEN NO ONE IS AROUND?

    God, speeders will find any justification for their bad behavior.


    It's a work zone with no workers and no work being done. Kinda like parkway vs driveway?
  • So what happens here eventually, is that the system gets so backed up that "victims" of this scam start getting their notices too late to comply, and end up having to deal with warrants, no-knocks, being arrested. Nice way to eventually enslave everyone, huh?

    "What are you in for?"
    "Not paying a fine on time"

    /half-kidding
  • Carn: JosephFinn: Oh! Oh! Oh! Is it BECAUSE IT'S A DAMN WORK ZONE WITH EQUIPMENT AND HORSESHOES EVEN WHEN NO ONE IS AROUND?

    God, speeders will find any justification for their bad behavior.

    It's a work zone with no workers and no work being done. Kinda like parkway vs driveway?


    Since road construction has no set hours of the day, how exactly do you propose the speed cameras work? How inconvenient is it for people to do 55mph instead of 65? Honestly.
  • JosephFinn: Oh! Oh! Oh! Is it BECAUSE IT'S A DAMN WORK ZONE WITH EQUIPMENT AND HORSESHOES EVEN WHEN NO ONE IS AROUND?


    This isn't always true either. Twice I've seen "work zones" where there was no equipment or anything, as if they simply "forgot" to take down the lowered speed limit signs. Also, it's very common for the reduced speed limit to continue for up to a mile beyond the end of the work zone. I remember this happening on the Baltimore beltway inner loop. One time, there was work done around the I-95 interchange (on the top side), but the speed limit didn't go back up until well after Rt 702. This is about a mile or so of no work zone, but a lowered speed limit.
  • From the article:

    But Tabacek says the state always wants people slowing down in work zones. Also, he said, "four out of five injuries that take place in work zones are to the motorists themselves."

    So its for our safety during times when workers are not present.
  • JosephFinn: Oh! Oh! Oh! Is it BECAUSE IT'S A DAMN WORK ZONE WITH EQUIPMENT AND HORSESHOES EVEN WHEN NO ONE IS AROUND?

    God, speeders will find any justification for their bad behavior.


    No kidding. Speeding tickets cease to be a problem when you heed some free legal advice:

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  • Speeding and red light cameras.
    GPS tracking for cars and people.
    Security cams in public areas.
    Legislation dictating what you can and can't eat based on healthcare costs.
    Bans on smoking OUTDOORS.
    Free Speech Zones.
    Drug testing for employment.
    NSA spying on your communications.
    Secret detention facilities.
    Police free to search you and your possessions almost at will.
    Laws prohibiting many forms of self-defense.
    Terrorist definitions expanded to include just about anyone out of line.
    Rich/poor gap growing as a small elite group controls almost all the wealth.
    High unemployment.


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    AMERICA! fark YEAH! BE GLAD YOU DON'T LIVE IN ONE OF THEM COMMIE COUNTRIES!!

    HTTR!!

    /"Orwellian" no longer means anything.
  • Are they seriously dumping a speed camera out on an interstate where 65mph is the speed limit and EVERY-SINGLE-PERSON is going over it and ticketing every single person that passes the camera? Seems overly dickish.
  • had98c: JosephFinn: Oh! Oh! Oh! Is it BECAUSE IT'S A DAMN WORK ZONE WITH EQUIPMENT AND HORSESHOES EVEN WHEN NO ONE IS AROUND?

    God, speeders will find any justification for their bad behavior.

    No kidding. Speeding tickets cease to be a problem when you heed some free legal advice:

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    *slow clap*
  • styckx: Are they seriously dumping a speed camera out on an interstate where 65mph is the speed limit and EVERY-SINGLE-PERSON is going over it and ticketing every single person that passes the camera? Seems overly dickish.


    Sounds reasonable. Meanwhile I'm at 65, following the law and safety and whistling my way down the road, not getting a ticket and driving responsibly.
  • pag1107: I've always thought running one of those little white camera jeeps would make a great 2nd job. Sit there all evening reading a magazine or newspaper or book.

    A guy in Arizona shot and killed a speed camera van occupant.
  • tuxq: Carn: JosephFinn: Oh! Oh! Oh! Is it BECAUSE IT'S A DAMN WORK ZONE WITH EQUIPMENT AND HORSESHOES EVEN WHEN NO ONE IS AROUND?

    God, speeders will find any justification for their bad behavior.

    It's a work zone with no workers and no work being done. Kinda like parkway vs driveway?

    Since road construction has no set hours of the day, how exactly do you propose the speed cameras work? How inconvenient is it for people to do 55mph instead of 65? Honestly.


    First, many road work sites include those happy little yellow lights with a sign that reads "speed limit x when flashing". Second, I don't have a problem with speed enforcement, I have a problem with automated systems doing the enforcement. If you have a road crew in a dangerous area, put a cop there. It will be more effective and safer than a camera that the drivers may or may not know about. Once again, if it's about safety, a real human being police officer will get you there. If it's about just raising money and safety (or guilt) be damned, yay cameras!
  • lordjupiter: Speeding and red light cameras.
    GPS tracking for cars and people.
    Security cams in public areas.
    Legislation dictating what you can and can't eat based on healthcare costs.
    Bans on smoking OUTDOORS.
    Free Speech Zones.
    Drug testing for employment.
    NSA spying on your communications.
    Secret detention facilities.
    Police free to search you and your possessions almost at will.
    Laws prohibiting many forms of self-defense.
    Terrorist definitions expanded to include just about anyone out of line.
    Rich/poor gap growing as a small elite group controls almost all the wealth.
    High unemployment.


    BUT WE GOT DUMB REALITY SHOWS AND FOOTBALL GAMES THAT ARE MOSTLY COMMERCIALS AND YOU CAN ORDER PIZZA FROM YOUR SPY-PHONE!! HAVE YOU HEARD THE LATEST VERSION OF THE POP SONG BY ATTRACTIVE GIRL???

    AMERICA! fark YEAH! BE GLAD YOU DON'T LIVE IN ONE OF THEM COMMIE COUNTRIES!!

    HTTR!!

    /"Orwellian" no longer means anything.


    It's time to start using "Huxleyan" instead?
  • special20: So what happens here eventually, is that the system gets so backed up that "victims" of this scam start getting their notices too late to comply, and end up having to deal with warrants, no-knocks, being arrested. Nice way to eventually enslave everyone, huh?

    "What are you in for?"
    "Not paying a fine on time"

    /half-kidding


    WE ARE ALL ON THE GROUP W BENCH
  • Joshua5: From the article:

    But Tabacek says the state always wants people slowing down in work zones. Also, he said, "four out of five injuries that take place in work zones are to the motorists themselves."

    So its for our safety during times when workers are not present.



    Well, that seems fair. Often one'll find lanes move around (with pylons directing the flow), and the pavement conditions can vary wildly. So, I can see the argument. Plus: Hey, free money!

    /Only took 15 comments for someone to read the article - not bad, considering this'll probably top 200
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