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  • But how will the busybodies get you to do the irrational stuff they want you to do?
  • No. Freedom smells like the awesome fries covered in cheese, bacon and jalapeno slices from Rick's Steaks this afternoon.

    This is merely "you have to go by the contract which states you cannot make up rules as you go along" smelling.
  • Stuff like calling the management office or having the wrong color blinds

    "Don`t call us and get us to do our job or we will fine you!"

    /freedom smells like the lack of TSA in an airport...
  • Sounds like someone's personal kingdom got squashed. The HOA chairman sounds like a thief to me using the condo as a piggy bank.
  • Doesn't seem quite as exciting as I first thought...all depends on whether the original documents establishing the HOA include them. If they don't, then no fines.

    New HOAs will undoubtedly have the fines in their original documents.
  • Freakish what people will put up with. I would have paid neighborhood kids a c-note to lob Molotovs into his driveway every night until he either moved or his home burnt to the ground and was forced to live somewhere else and therefore could no longer be a resident.
  • Freedom smells like bacon, Do you hear me? Bacon!
  • How had this guy survived? I can only picture hundreds of knifed tires, epoxy in door locks, rat heads nailed to the front door, etc. I'd call him a douche, but I doubt he's been that close to a vagina in decades.
  • My son rents a unit in that development. I thought it sounded familiar.
  • Nuclear Monk: New HOAs will undoubtedly have the fines in their original documents.


    All they need to do is to state they have the option of levying new fines and rules and necessary in the original deed. (or in the case of this one, all that was needed was the ability to amend current rules and penalties as allowed by state law, which was NOT in the original deed)

    Looks like the tenants never got any results in their struggles. Fairfax County had purchased some condos for low income housing. The Condo associate tried to rack up fines (which I think was more to get rid of the low-income people than to make money) and Fairfax County laid down the biatch smack.
  • In this environment, I'd be concerned that some Oxford-cloth resident/psycho might just snap, and then stalk from condo to condo with an Armalite AR-10 carbine gas-powered semi-automatic weapon, pumping round after round into HOA board members. This might be someone you've known for years. Someone very, very close to you.
  • I'm a little mixed on this. Taking the teeth out of a contract essentially nullifies it, which means this ruling could very well be the death of HOAs. Yeah, it's fun to bash the ridiculous, over-the-top HOA antics, but I'd wager those are more the exception than the rule. There are benefits to having an HOA, like like landscaping and maintenance of common areas, building pools, tennis courts, and playgrounds, and hosting neighborhood events and parties. I used to live in a neighborhood where HOA dues were optional, and the association couldn't afford to do much besides cut the grass at the neighborhood entrance. Plus, there were a lot of run-down houses, overgrown lawns, and the like which generally made the neighborhood kind of depressing.

    The place I live now has a much more active HOA, and it's a much more pleasant place to live. I've gone to some of the meetings, I've seen the budget, and I can't really complain about how they're spending my money. Sure, some of the rules seem onerous, but they are somewhat flexible, and minor offenses are often overlooked.

    Best advice? Before buying a house, ask for a copy of the covenant. If you don't like it, don't buy the house.
  • In someways this is a good thing but it isn't as broad as the headline makes it sound.

    I view HOAs alot like unions initially a good idea to solve a problem that exists, but the way they developed into the organizations of today only have a passing nod at what was originally intended and don't necessarily stop the problems created to solve.
  • Taking the teeth out of a contract essentially nullifies it,

    The original contract said no other fees or fines would be assessed, so there isn't any "teeth" in the contract. Perhaps you should RTFA before commenting.

    I for one, would never buy housing unit that was part of an association.
  • j0e_average: In this environment, I'd be concerned that some Oxford-cloth resident/psycho might just snap, and then stalk from condo to condo with an Armalite AR-10 carbine gas-powered semi-automatic weapon, pumping round after round into HOA board members. This might be someone you've known for years. Someone very, very close to you.


    waiting for the "shave and a haircut, two bits" knock are you?

    /possibly not obscure Right to Remain Silent, Act 1
  • K3rmy: Looks like the tenants never got any results in their struggles. Fairfax County had purchased some condos for low income housing. The Condo associate tried to rack up fines (which I think was more to get rid of the low-income people than to make money) and Fairfax County laid down the biatch smack.


    This - they finally f*cked with City Hall. Unbelievably stupid to think that the government would put up with shenanigans. And it looks like the County took away their toy. Finally.

    I don't understand why nobody's lawyered up before. I guess they kept them in the "annoying, but not enough to do anything about it" range.
  • dready zim: /freedom smells like the lack of TSA in an airport...


    this
  • ChubbyTiger: How had this guy survived? I can only picture hundreds of knifed tires, epoxy in door locks, rat heads nailed to the front door, etc. I'd call him a douche, but I doubt he's been that close to a vagina in decades.


    That was beautimus, man. I cried...
  • As a denizen of Reston these HOAs can't get biatch slapped hard enough.
  • unfortunately HOAs these days, particularly in Northern Virginia, are really just crafty contracts to continue sucking money out of residents. My parents own a condo in the area.. the builders set up a HOA management contract where they collect like $350 a month in neighborhood fees for maintenance.... but I have absolutely no idea where that money goes. There must be 100+ units in the neighborhood, and there is no way in hell mowing the 5 foot strip of grass in front of the buildings costs this.

    They basically say Hey, buy this property from us AND pay us rent every month.... and morons like my parents just agree to it.

    Its retarded and sickening.
  • SpacemanSpoof: I'm a little mixed on this. Taking the teeth out of a contract essentially nullifies it, which means this ruling could very well be the death of HOAs. Yeah, it's fun to bash the ridiculous, over-the-top HOA antics, but I'd wager those are more the exception than the rule. There are benefits to having an HOA, like like landscaping and maintenance of common areas, building pools, tennis courts, and playgrounds, and hosting neighborhood events and parties. I used to live in a neighborhood where HOA dues were optional, and the association couldn't afford to do much besides cut the grass at the neighborhood entrance. Plus, there were a lot of run-down houses, overgrown lawns, and the like which generally made the neighborhood kind of depressing.

    The place I live now has a much more active HOA, and it's a much more pleasant place to live. I've gone to some of the meetings, I've seen the budget, and I can't really complain about how they're spending my money. Sure, some of the rules seem onerous, but they are somewhat flexible, and minor offenses are often overlooked.

    Best advice? Before buying a house, ask for a copy of the covenant. If you don't like it, don't buy the house.


    Did you RTFA? Reading the covenant before hand isn't much use if the management then proceeds to make up new rules as it goes along, now, is it?
  • If we ever crack open the constitution again for a constitutional convention, we need to make it so you can not turn over your property rights like this to someone else. It is like a little taste of communism. At the very least a totalitarian mini-state.
  • Not surprisingly, that is not at all what the ruling said.
  • SpacemanSpoof: Best advice? Before buying a house, ask for a copy of the covenant. If you don't like it, don't buy the house.


    Nice in theory, but in many areas there is no reasonably affordable housing that's not part of some HOA. I went on a job interview in Florida, and there was almost no non-HOA housing anywhere. Fortunately, I didn't get the job.
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