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  • So, what did the managers want him to do? Or am I missing something?
  • The managers just want him to hand over the money & not do anything but hope that the thugs don't hurt him. If he were to hurt one of them then they (the robbers) might sue Pizza Hut because of emotional distress or some such nonsense. If he (the driver) were to get hurt himself, well worker's comp may go up a bit but he'd be easy to replace.

    Sadly it is a very common thought process. In addition to delivery drivers, many (most?) corporate owned gas stations/convenience stores will fire their clerks if they use any sort of weapon to defend themselves in a robbery. It rarely makes waves here on Fark just because it IS so common.
  • What exactly do you demote a delivery driver to?
  • Pud: What exactly do you demote a delivery driver to?


    Anchovy can opener.
  • Is this really any different than any other corporate policy on the books telling employees not to "be a hero" when it comes to being robbed/stopping shoplifters? Major liabilities for them are abound if you try to stop them, and we've seen enough stories about people getting fired here for doing just that. It's an unfortunate situation, but people need to know the company is more than likely *not* to take their side in a situation like this.
  • DanZero: Is this really any different than any other corporate policy on the books telling employees not to "be a hero" when it comes to being robbed/stopping shoplifters? Major liabilities for them are abound if you try to stop them, and we've seen enough stories about people getting fired here for doing just that. It's an unfortunate situation, but people need to know the company is more than likely *not* to take their side in a situation like this.


    We should change the law, then.

    For a corporate chain? Hells yeah take everything insurance has got their back.

    But for personal property or your person? There's no reason you shouldn't be allowed to shoot someone dead if they try to rob you personally or harm you in any way, regardless of if you are currently working or not. I'm not saying pizza guys should pack heat, but the passenger seat is called "shotgun" for a reason.
  • the corporate policy at the grocery store I work at is that you try to detain shoplifters until police arive unless they have a weapon, then you do everying thing you can to get them out of the store as quickly as possible with no injuries to workers or shoppers. Also amended a few years back to include not following robbers/shoplifters once they are out of the store because a manager got a kife to the gut trying to get a guy's license plate number
  • Pud: What exactly do you demote a delivery driver to?


    Came to ask the exact same question

    /there's a position lower than that?
    //yikes
  • No subby, he was demoted for carrying a weapon.
  • JasonGriffee: So, what did the managers want him to do? Or am I missing something?


    Something that couldn't get them sued or make their insurance rates go up.
  • JasonGriffee: So, what did the managers want him to do?

    NOT carry a weapon

    Or am I missing something?

    Yes, this wasn't about defending himself, it was about having a weapon.
  • MaudlinMutantMollusk: Pud: What exactly do you demote a delivery driver to?

    Came to ask the exact same question

    /there's a position lower than that?
    //yikes


    Customer?

    How much would it suck to have to actually eat that crap?
  • This reminds me of that lifeguard bullshiat story

    /my money is on that they would have fired him for giving the 'za and the cash away if that was the path he so choose
  • I am assuming they were Urban Youth. He committed a racist act and should be fired.
  • JasonGriffee: So, what did the managers want him to do? Or am I missing something?


    Most retail jobs like that would rather you give up the money or product than anything else.
  • Clearly the answer is move to Florida.
  • JasonGriffee: So, what did the managers want him to do? Or am I missing something?


    They wanted him to not carry weapons in the car. That he defended himself wasn't the problem, it was the weapon he brought with him for that purpose.

    (I assume the only legit reason to carry a half tentpole in a Pizzahut car is as a weapon, although it sounds like a sucky weapon).
  • This is the company that fired me (and other drivers) right before reaching 200 Accident Free Hours driving. At the time, anyway, the 200 AFH mark was supposed to earn a raise. They couldn't have that, so....
  • MaudlinMutantMollusk: Pud: What exactly do you demote a delivery driver to?

    Came to ask the exact same question

    /there's a position lower than that?
    //yikes


    Pecking order

    /there's the delivery guy, the dirt, the worms inside of the dirt, Popo's stool, Kami, then Popo
  • The PH facebook page posts "Rule 7 - never ever ever use a fork to eat chicken wings"

    I suggested that never ever carry a fork when delivering pizzas.   It's not only ineffective against a knife, but you can get fired for it.
  • spawn73: JasonGriffee: So, what did the managers want him to do? Or am I missing something?

    They wanted him to not carry weapons in the car. That he defended himself wasn't the problem, it was the weapon he brought with him for that purpose.

    (I assume the only legit reason to carry a half tentpole in a Pizzahut car is as a weapon, although it sounds like a sucky weapon).


    Collapsible metal baton is the only way to go.
  • Pud: What exactly do you demote a delivery driver to?


    Came for this.
  • Self defense is a Right. You are allowed to use the force necessary to stop the attack from continuing.

    Women have murdered their rapist to stop the attack and most of them have gone free depending on whether the Judge likes rape or not.

    People have even not been charged when defending themselves against the police attacking them without just cause(excessive force).

    /Still not legal to go down to the U.S. congress and kick Boehner in the nutsack for his parties attack on people.

    //Pizza dude could make a few grand due to the corporate policy of being killed in the name of policy. "Hey muggers, you can beat the shiat out of our employees and they will just stand there and take it like a good little sheeple".
  • MaudlinMutantMollusk: Pud: What exactly do you demote a delivery driver to?

    Came to ask the exact same question

    /there's a position lower than that?
    //yikes


    If only there were a handy link to an article that would answer your question.
  • Wait he got demoted? Send a news crew.
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