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  • I'm racking my brain for the GOP votes they need. I think Graham is saying he'll vote for it, but that's still 50-50 based upon how they treated Dole's UN treaty. You can probably get Scott Brown, because he wants Kerry's seat. You can count on Snowe and Collins. Who else?

    Who else is not batsh*t crazy? I honestly can't think of anymore votes. Saxby Chambliss said something a few weeks ago, but he got his peter stepped on. Can they actually get 60 votes? F*cking filibuster rule is retarded. Especially since they don't have the stones to actually make them filibuster the goddamn thing.
  • I expect any deal to be worse than the "cliff".
  • NewportBarGuy: I'm racking my brain for the GOP votes they need. I think Graham is saying he'll vote for it, but that's still 50-50 based upon how they treated Dole's UN treaty. You can probably get Scott Brown, because he wants Kerry's seat. You can count on Snowe and Collins. Who else?

    Who else is not batsh*t crazy? I honestly can't think of anymore votes. Saxby Chambliss said something a few weeks ago, but he got his peter stepped on. Can they actually get 60 votes? F*cking filibuster rule is retarded. Especially since they don't have the stones to actually make them filibuster the goddamn thing.


    Yeah, but there may be Republicans who would neither vote for it nor filibuster it. That way it passes so they don't get blamed for not having a deal but they don't have the "yes" vote on their records.
  • TFA does not include Graham congradulating Obama on a deal. I am disappoint in headline.
  • NewportBarGuy: I'm racking my brain for the GOP votes they need. I think Graham is saying he'll vote for it, but that's still 50-50 based upon how they treated Dole's UN treaty. You can probably get Scott Brown, because he wants Kerry's seat. You can count on Snowe and Collins. Who else?

    Who else is not batsh*t crazy? I honestly can't think of anymore votes. Saxby Chambliss said something a few weeks ago, but he got his peter stepped on. Can they actually get 60 votes? F*cking filibuster rule is retarded. Especially since they don't have the stones to actually make them filibuster the goddamn thing.


    Graham says he thinks the bill needs 60% of the Senate GOP to back it to get a tenth of the House GOP to vote for it, assuming that all the Democrats vote for the deal.

    Every single part of this is absurd and I think unlikely.
  • I'm not holding my breath on any deal.

    I'll be in my fully-stocked bunker until the Cliff is over.
  • PreMortem: TFA does not include Graham congradulating Obama on a deal. I am disappoint in headline.


    Or, you know, any actual indication that there's a deal.
  • this thread...how the fark does it work?
  • Nice how on the one hand the politicians proclaim America the best Country in the World, then on the other hand they do everything to run the country like they couldn't give a shiat. Obama was re-elected on November 2nd, so all of them had just about two whole months to avert this, but they haven't. Jerks.
  • It's going to be a crappy deal that screws over most taxpayers.

    But hey, credit for getting it done? Oh well.
  • A republican congratulated Obama on something?

    How bad could it be?

    Human sacrifice, dogs and cats living together ... mass hysteria!
  • Let's see...higher taxes means more money to the Guvmint.
    Um.....I don't see our esteemed leaders' incentive to change a damn thing.

    Oh that's right, there are still those of you out there that think the government gives a flying fark about you.
    Suckers.
  • I can't believe that just this one time, we can't drop partisan politics and just make a nice deal that will save us from plunging into the abyss. It's bad enough that most of the major companies have fled to other climes to pay their workers shiat wages and no benefits, so work is hard to find , and the jobs you CAN find are crap that don't pay. Now, we are looking at taxing everyone at a higher rate, when the economy is in a steady depression, and unemployment is high. One would like to think that we elected these people to actually, I don't know, HELP the constituents they represent, and let go of the political line they drive on all the time. Taxing me more when i don't have much now isn't really helping me.
  • We have to protect our phoney baloney jobs here, gentlemen! We must do something about this immediately! Immediately! Immediately! Harrumph! Harrumph!

    /I'm glad that they should now be able to avoid such an arbitrary thing. Kudos.
  • lordjupiter: this thread...how the fark does it work?


    Like this obviously.

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  • lordjupiter: this thread...how the fark does it work?


    The Politics tab - how the heck does one find it?
  • iheartscotch: A republican congratulated Obama on something?

    How bad could it be?

    Human sacrifice, dogs and cats living together ... mass hysteria!


    Yeah, but it's not a congratulations. He congratulated him for getting a "political victory", that's like saying "oh, you won this round but we'll get you next time".
  • I still haven't found anyone with some authority explain exactly *why* this fiscal cliff would be such an enormous disaster.
  • I don't think Moose and Squirrel make any income, so they won't be affected by this.
  • ZAZ: I expect any deal to be worse than the "cliff".


    THIS. You know Obama will sell us out before making those assholes pay for causing this mess.
  • New York Times' Tweeter feed is reporting a setback.
  • Graham seems to be one of the few in the old guard that seems to understand that the GOP really needs to change if it intends to survive.

    /seems is the active word in that sentence.
  • GAT_00: NewportBarGuy: I'm racking my brain for the GOP votes they need. I think Graham is saying he'll vote for it, but that's still 50-50 based upon how they treated Dole's UN treaty. You can probably get Scott Brown, because he wants Kerry's seat. You can count on Snowe and Collins. Who else?

    Who else is not batsh*t crazy? I honestly can't think of anymore votes. Saxby Chambliss said something a few weeks ago, but he got his peter stepped on. Can they actually get 60 votes? F*cking filibuster rule is retarded. Especially since they don't have the stones to actually make them filibuster the goddamn thing.

    Graham says he thinks the bill needs 60% of the Senate GOP to back it to get a tenth of the House GOP to vote for it, assuming that all the Democrats vote for the deal.

    Every single part of this is absurd and I think unlikely.


    I don't foresee a resolution occurring in enough time. If all budgetary bills must originate in the House and if this one originates in the Senate then I think we'll see what we saw a few months ago when another budgetary bill was originated in the Senate. They allowed it to come up for a vote in the House because they knew it couldn't be passed. The House only needs to accuse Obama of trying to bypass the Constitution and suddenly this becomes a discussion about who did what and not the fiscal cliff.
  • Leave Moose and Squirrel to me.
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