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  • Some residents are preparing to submit a citizen's petition for the upcoming Town Meeting in April that would seek to overturn the bylaw.

    "As a mother of three young kids, I'm in favor of banning assault weapons and school violence, not harmless water,'' said Adriana Cohen, who lives in town and is part of Concord Residents for Consumer Choice. "That's why I've proposed a bill to ban force in schools. From now on, our children will be inertialess and safe.''
  • Recycle?

    Nah. Ban them.

    I guess I applaud them for their realism. Lazy Americans don't want to recycle.
  • FatherChaos: Recycle?

    Nah. Ban them.

    I guess I applaud them for their realism. Lazy Americans don't want to recycle.


    Michigan's 10 cent deposit law is by far the most successful recycling program in the country.  If you toss that can... someone will probably find it and grab the dime.

    95.9% return rate.
    source:
    http://www.bottlebill.org/legislatio n/usa/michigan.htm
     

    Just saying.
  • FatherChaos: Recycle?

    Nah. Ban them.

    I guess I applaud them for their realism. Lazy Americans don't want to recycle.


    Said like a true enviroweenie commie. This is America, let the individual citizens decide for themselves whether or not to buy single serving bottles.
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    That are plenty of other stupid things about bottled water and problems inherent with it, but it's effing Sunday, I'm still hungover, and you know, do your own research.  Just don't buy Nestle/Ice Mountain if you live in Michigan especially.  kthxbye.
  • Ann Davidson, 82, sent a letter to the Board of Selectmen this month saying she has hemochromatosis, a disease that causes her body to absorb too much iron. She said she cannot eat or drink anything that contains large quantities of iron, such as tap water.

    Oh I don't know,maybe you can buy a filter for your kitchen sink, utilize a reusable bottle and save a hell of a lot of money versus buying individual bottles of water? Or buy a Britta portable water bottle with the built in filter?
  • Ima4nic8or: This is America, let the individual citizens decide for themselves whether or not to buy single serving bottles.


    This is where I say, "You can move to Somalia and buy all the bottled water you'd like".
  • Can I still sell homeopathic medicine in aqeuous carrier in bottles of one liter or smaller?
  • CaptSS: Ann Davidson, 82, sent a letter to the Board of Selectmen this month saying she has hemochromatosis, a disease that causes her body to absorb too much iron. She said she cannot eat or drink anything that contains large quantities of iron, such as tap water.

    Oh I don't know,maybe you can buy a filter for your kitchen sink, utilize a reusable bottle and save a hell of a lot of money versus buying individual bottles of water? Or buy a Britta portable water bottle with the built in filter?


    Or you could buy large bottles of water, apparently.

    My Mom suddenly decided she didn't like tap water, and couldn't find a filter she liked.  I don't get it.  But she bought one gallon empty containers and goes to Meijer once a week and refills them at a Absopure machine.  29 cents for a gallon of filtered purified whatever water since she brings in her own containers.  You know, if you must buy water on a regular basis... I guess I can be okay with that.
  • Why is the target bottled water in particular? I suppose because there are tons of other means of getting water, but soda seems another obvious candidate with larger bottles, cans, and drink machines in most restaurants.
  • ZAZ: Can I still sell homeopathic medicine in aqeuous carrier in bottles of one liter or smaller?


    Well played old chap.
  • Will we ever have enough laws?
  • CaptSS: Oh I don't know,maybe you can buy a filter for your kitchen sink, utilize a reusable bottle and save a hell of a lot of money versus buying individual bottles of water? Or buy a Britta portable water bottle with the built in filter?

    Usually this is not more environmentally friendly than buying disposable bottles, due to the costs of manufacturing and washing reusables, etc.

    BUT what actually makes sense from a policy point of view is to ban non-returnable disposable bottles and to make sure that returnables have a high enough reward factor.
  • Vangor: Why is the target bottled water in particular? I suppose because there are tons of other means of getting water, but soda seems another obvious candidate with larger bottles, cans, and drink machines in most restaurants.


    Soda bottles have a 5 cent deposit. They usually get recycled.
  • The dihydrogen-monoxide-contained-in-highl y-polymerized-hydrocarbon-matrix -ban-heard-round-the-world?

    Meh. Concord has done better.
  • "...and to drink I'd like a bottle of water."

    "Sorry, we don't have bottles of water."

    "No, just bring me out a coke."
  • RandomAxe: CaptSS: Oh I don't know,maybe you can buy a filter for your kitchen sink, utilize a reusable bottle and save a hell of a lot of money versus buying individual bottles of water? Or buy a Britta portable water bottle with the built in filter?

    Usually this is not more environmentally friendly than buying disposable bottles, due to the costs of manufacturing and washing reusables, etc.

    BUT what actually makes sense from a policy point of view is to ban non-returnable disposable bottles and to make sure that returnables have a high enough reward factor.


    I'm not sure I buy that. A case o4 24 16.9 oz. bottles of water is $3.99. This is the equivalent of about 3 gallons of water. A one time purchase of a filtered bottle is $10, which is good for 40 gallons. So initially, the reusable bottle is the equivalent of 13 cases of bottled water or 312 throw away bottles. Then the next 40 gallons of filtered bottled water is $5 for the replacement filter. Again, 1 used filter to throw away versus 312 plastic bottles. The actual price of the tap water you would use is almost negligible. (My water rate in Dallas is $2.66 per 1,000 gallons of water.)
  • Vangor: Why is the target bottled water in particular?

    If you're asking why was the bylaw proposed, presumably because that's what the voice of Gaia chose to whisper in some woman's ear.

    If you're asking why it passed, a combination of "green" guilt, availability of subsitutes, and observations of "too much" use and/or litter. This was decided a vote. It doesn't have to make sense.
  • CaptSS: I'm not sure I buy that.

    You're missing some of the energy costs, such as those involved in washing the bottle, and it's a mistake to assume that the visible costs (what you pay at the store, for instance) map to the actual costs, since they usually don't.

    But this is pretty boring. Just google it if you're actually curious. I can't promise you'll find anything that will change your mind, and it's no big deal, but there's tons of stuff about this online. Some people love to argue about it, back and forth.
  • jaylectricity: Vangor: Why is the target bottled water in particular? I suppose because there are tons of other means of getting water, but soda seems another obvious candidate with larger bottles, cans, and drink machines in most restaurants.

    Soda bottles have a 5 cent deposit. They usually get recycled.


    The plastic ones do? Wasn't aware of that.
  • What will truckers pee in now?
  • Great, we're becoming California East. I can't wait to go bankrupt because of ridiculous liberal legislation.
  • I'm for this in theory, but I can't very well carry a bottle of cold water around with me all day. When it hits 100F, if I can't buy a regular bottle of cold water I will probably go for soda or iced tea. Pretty sure I'm not the only one.
  • good start. next: yogurt containers, Lunchables (why the guvmint allows that to be sold is proof positive they hate you & your kids), coffee creamer bottle blah blah blah.
    fark it. we have 8 or 9 trash cans. we're farkers & we care, gottdammit.

    / recycle till it hurts then recycle some more
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