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  • Hanky code thread?

    /Remember, leave the yellow or brown handkerchiefs at home, or you'll wind up pissed and have a shiatty time.
  • Boy Scouts Reconsider Stance on Gay Members

    their stance wasn't wide enough to receive those members
  • That reminds me, I haven't been the the Eagle in a while.
  • This is the one you greenlight? Bah!

    From the other thread: I wonder what kind of a social atmosphere that would create. So you're gay Scout Master John Doe, and you're trying to be a positive influence to kids in the BSA, all the while knowing the only reason they're tolerating your membership is because they want to keep their largest donors.
  • They're considering it. They haven't done it yet. Until they actually decide, this is not a story.
  • vernonFL: That reminds me, I haven't been the the Eagle in a while.


    I'll be at Otter Crossing.
  • RexTalionis: They're considering it. They haven't done it yet. Until they actually decide, this is not a story.


    I don't think the BSA would make an official announcement now if the change wasn't pretty sure to pass.  Next week's meeting will just formalize what's already been decided.
  • We're here at Cub Scout troop 234's meeting where we secretly replaced the fine usual crypto-fascist reward system they usually serve in their Cub Scout Guide to Awards and Insigniabooks with The Leatherman's Handbook.

    Let's see if anyone can tell the difference!

    - brap recycles
  • Could be too little too late.  The problem isn't just the discriminatory policy against gheys, but the lack of any real democracy within the organization.  Fix that, then let the members vote on gay bans and religious requirements.
  • Well, clearly this will lead the way to the new Scout motto - 'Be Pre-beared'

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  • I_Am_Weasel: Well, clearly this will lead the way to the new Scout motto - 'Be Pre-beared'

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  • My troop let in gays, atheists, muslims, jews. We had some of everything in there, and if parents had a problem with it, they were told to send their kid to the shiatty troop across town.

    I don't know how the BSA lets us do this, possibly because we were a troop of over 100, and that was a lot of dues or something.
  • In other news, BSA is expected to announce several fabulous new merit badges
  • serial_crusher: Could be too little too late.  The problem isn't just the discriminatory policy against gheys, but the lack of any real democracy within the organization.  Fix that, then let the members vote on gay bans and religious requirements.


    There's democracy within the organization but really only at the local level.  They do that on purpose, because if there had to be a nationwide vote on everything you'd end up with an organization as fractured as the US populace.
  • Teknowaffle: My troop let in gays, atheists, muslims, jews. We had some of everything in there, and if parents had a problem with it, they were told to send their kid to the shiatty troop across town.

    I don't know how the BSA lets us do this, possibly because we were a troop of over 100, and that was a lot of dues or something.


    Muslims and Jews are A-OK by the Boy Scouts.  Maybe the gays after next week.

    The godless heathens are shiat out of luck.
  • Cythraul: From the other thread: I wonder what kind of a social atmosphere that would create


    Teknowaffle: My troop let in gays, atheists, muslims, jews. We had some of everything in there, and if parents had a problem with it, they were told to send their kid to the shiatty troop across town.


    You'll probably end up with a varying mix of tolerant and non tolerant troops. If you don't like one, go find another, just as in Teknowaffle's example.
  • Teknowaffle: My troop let in gays, atheists, muslims, jews. We had some of everything in there, and if parents had a problem with it, they were told to send their kid to the shiatty troop across town.

    I don't know how the BSA lets us do this, possibly because we were a troop of over 100, and that was a lot of dues or something.


    The reality is that it requires a shiathead on the committee in order to exclude people based on religion or sexual orientation.  If the troop or pack lacks such a shiathead, then it's pretty much moot.
  • Cythraul: I wonder what kind of a social atmosphere that would create. So you're gay Scout Master John Doe, and you're trying to be a positive influence to kids in the BSA, all the while knowing the only reason they're tolerating your membership is because they want to keep their largest donors.


    I think that anyone that would be in that situation would be more worried about shaping the next generation of leaders than upset about the assholes that are in charge today.

    But it's something we've been through with women and African-Americans and all kind of once-excluded minorities. I have great respect for anyone willing to put up with the crap that comes with being an unwelcome member of an organization. Which makes me think: if they do change the rules, a (mostly) straight guy like me would have a role in being a scout leader and helping make it a welcoming organization for everyone.

    Then again, they still have a problem with atheists, don't they?
  • Krieghund: Cythraul: I wonder what kind of a social atmosphere that would create. So you're gay Scout Master John Doe, and you're trying to be a positive influence to kids in the BSA, all the while knowing the only reason they're tolerating your membership is because they want to keep their largest donors.

    I think that anyone that would be in that situation would be more worried about shaping the next generation of leaders than upset about the assholes that are in charge today.

    But it's something we've been through with women and African-Americans and all kind of once-excluded minorities. I have great respect for anyone willing to put up with the crap that comes with being an unwelcome member of an organization. Which makes me think: if they do change the rules, a (mostly) straight guy like me would have a role in being a scout leader and helping make it a welcoming organization for everyone.

    Then again, they still have a problem with atheists, don't they?


    Child molesters: OK
    Atheists: No way

    /godless heathen bastards have no place in a free Christian country
  • So.... The fox is going to be in charge of the chicken coop.

    What could possibly go wrong?
  • I_Am_Weasel: Well, clearly this will lead the way to the new Scout motto - 'Be Pre-beared'


    Well im pretty sure most gheys that would want into scouting would be more likely to be bears than fairy twinks.
  • Can anyone else hear the Mormon Church gathering up their bases, balls, and bats and going home?

    Seriously - if this is the case, thousands of troops will cease to exist on the following day.
  • They must be losing money
  • That's nice. My son will still be doing 4-H.
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