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  • The "seasteader" movement doesn't seem to make any sense.  Escaping minimum wage and firearms restrictions by living on a large platform in international waters?

    First of all, who the Hell are you going to pay minimum wage on your little platform?  To do what?  To work in the factory that doesn't fit anywhere?  Why not just move to Saipan, which already has an extensive sweatshop industry and a perfectly bribeable government?

    Second, if you're away from society on floating platform, firearms serve zero purpose except for addressing the problem you just created by moving into international waters.
  • I remember some guy planning a libertarian artificial island 20 years ago. I encouraged the planning, because it was interesting to watch the attempt to design workable laws, but I never thought it would fly float because you need other countries to recognize your country.

    Without being recognized as an independent state the island is just some guys hanging out on a boat. If the artificial island is legally a stateless vessel then the American military can enforce American drug smuggling laws in international waters. Otherwise the Marines can come ashore and enforce U.S. law against U.S. citizens. Like that per capita health care tax you didn't pay.
  • Personally, I hope that all three projects go ahead.  I would love to see how the rest of America survives after all of the bootstrappy rugged Randian libertarian wealthy people leave to stake out their own private Galt's Gulches.

    I mean it, I am dead serious, I really would love to see a United States that didn't have these fine, upstanding, self-reliant people in it.
  • This is a personal theme park created by a crazy person:  The Orange Show:   http://orangeshow.org/orange-show-mon ument/

    /best thing in Houston
  • Ra's al ghul will be contributing lazarus pits to all locations.
  • Don't the rules for the Citadel already exist in rural Idaho?
  • Seems to be kind of politically one-sided in the amusement park world, which begs the question, would you rather live in a world of nutjob amusement parks or a world of no amusement parks?
  • Ahahahahah all three of them are those crazy libertarian projects. The threads about them on SA featured some fantastic stories written about how people imagined life would be on them. One of the collections is called On Golden Waters,yes it's a collection of stories by a bunch of goons but it was awesome. There is also another set of stories from the Glenn Beck thread they have which are great too.
  • WHAR MICHAEL JACKSON?  WHAR?

    /realize he's dead

    //he did build his own personal Pedoworld
  • Yeah, well, I'm gonna go build my own theme park, with blackjack and hookers! In fact, forget the park.
  • Meh, Columbia will be here later next month.
  • So when their island gets raided by pirates who have the financial backing of the international free market, are they going to be all bootstrappy and rely on their small guns to drive off the invaders? Or will they get angry that the ebil librul muslin Kenyan socialist usurper Mr. Farbongo McCommie didn't use his magic time machine to come rescue them?
  • I have one, too. In mine, we excavate a 30-story basement under a Wal-Mart. It's just that easy.
  • Andrew Ryan noticeably absent.
  • Gotta love the response to the Citadel... its the "wild west in the streets!" argument.

    'They're letting people carry guns... it will be the wild west! Shoot outs in the streets!'

    It doesn't happen and then the next time somebody proposes letting people carry guns

    'They're letting people carry guns... it will be the wild west! Shoot outs in the streets!'

    It doesn't happen and then the next time...

    Repeat this about a 1000x

    Then roll your eyes when you see 1001 on Cracked.
  • bighairyguy: Seems to be kind of politically one-sided in the amusement park world, which begs the question, would you rather live in a world of nutjob amusement parks or a world of no amusement parks?


    You're forgetting casinos, which are built by respectable businessmen.
  • randomjsa: Gotta love the response to the Citadel... its the "wild west in the streets!" argument.


    It's still a farking stupid idea that seems like a scam. I mean look at how they want to set it up.
  • The Seastead sounds pretty cool . You would be able to take a dump right in the ocean which is nice .
  • Including a panic room in every house is a selling point? Are they claiming that their community is so unsafe that you should expect large numbers of homes to be invaded so frequently that they all need panic rooms?
  • RY28: The Seastead sounds pretty cool . You would be able to take a dump right in the ocean which is nice .


    Not if you build it here:
    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Great_P acific_Garbage_Patch
  • randomjsa: Gotta love the response to the Citadel... its the "wild west in the streets!" argument.

    'They're letting people carry guns... it will be the wild west! Shoot outs in the streets!'

    It doesn't happen and then the next time somebody proposes letting people carry guns

    'They're letting people carry guns... it will be the wild west! Shoot outs in the streets!'

    It doesn't happen and then the next time...

    Repeat this about a 1000x

    Then roll your eyes when you see 1001 on Cracked.


    Actually, what's going to happen is a rash of people shooting themselves either while cleaning their gun, or "while cleaning their gun."  That's still tragic, but there a lot of people who are going to be full of schadenfreude with that.

    I think the most tragic part of the citadel is that these people are so paranoid about outside life that they have to live in a walled compound.  That speaks of mental illness.
  • taoistlumberjak: I think the most tragic part of the citadel is that these people are so paranoid about outside life that they have to live in a walled compound. That speaks of mental illness.


    Yeah. Walling yourself up away from the world isn't healthy at all.
  • The most commonly proposed Seasteads would have no welfare, no minimum wage, loose building codes, and minimal weapon restrictions and will terrify anyone who's ever played BioShock.

    I particularly love the no minimum wage bit. Who, exactly, do they think they are going to hire to come put the little umbrellas in their drinks on their glorified floating tiki bar? Yeah, I'm sure there will be people just jumping at the chance to come serve rich people $20 drinks for $2 an hour and never even have the hope for a chance to share in the lifestyle.
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