I mean, if you accept that gay as a countercultural movement had more to offer than gay as a part of the bourgeois, then sure. If your baseline is that the military, marriage, and religion are all equal restrictions on freedom, then the argument makes perfect sense.
Rincewind53:the military, marriage, and religion are all equal restrictions on freedom
this sounds absurd, though. Clearly all 3 are wholly different. One tells you to pray and hate gays. One tells you to go to foreign places and get shot at. And marriage tells you to....well I'm not sure except the various statutory issues and real property laws and whatnot.
Marriage is one of those institutions - along with religion and military service - that restricts freedom. Marriage is about making a commitment that binds you for decades to come. It narrows your options on how you will spend your time, money and attention.
Except you have the FREEDOM to not get married if you so choose. They want the OPTION to CHOOSE whether or not they get married.
Maybe I've been reading too much Fark, but did anyone else get a tongue-in-cheek tone while reading this one? "Once the movement became about self-sacrifice, it was bound to become popular" stuck out for me.
factoryconnection:Maybe I've been reading too much Fark, but did anyone else get a tongue-in-cheek tone while reading this one? "Once the movement became about self-sacrifice, it was bound to become popular" stuck out for me.
I could be crazy.
He deleted a comment I made asking if it was a belated April Fools prank, so you may be right. I hope so.
FloydA:factoryconnection: Maybe I've been reading too much Fark, but did anyone else get a tongue-in-cheek tone while reading this one? "Once the movement became about self-sacrifice, it was bound to become popular" stuck out for me.
I could be crazy.
He deleted a comment I made asking if it was a belated April Fools prank, so you may be right. I hope so.
DarwiOdrade:FloydA: factoryconnection: Maybe I've been reading too much Fark, but did anyone else get a tongue-in-cheek tone while reading this one? "Once the movement became about self-sacrifice, it was bound to become popular" stuck out for me.
I could be crazy.
He deleted a comment I made asking if it was a belated April Fools prank, so you may be right. I hope so.
I see your comment.
Hmm, now it's there. Five minutes ago, it said "Zero Comments." Weird. Perhaps I've come unstuck in time.
Infernalist:So, I'm guessing this author has a long and storied history opposing military service, religion and marriage as limitations on personal freedom?
timujin:Infernalist: So, I'm guessing this author has a long and storied history opposing military service, religion and marriage as limitations on personal freedom?
I wonder if he's married. Oh, the irony.
Or not living in a cabin in the woods, having gone for the full freedom abandoning societal participation eschews.
Yes, this is clearly a desire to restrict freedom. Without a doubt. Makes 100% sense.
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Rincewind53: the military, marriage, and religion are all equal restrictions on freedom
this sounds absurd, though. Clearly all 3 are wholly different. One tells you to pray and hate gays. One tells you to go to foreign places and get shot at. And marriage tells you to....well I'm not sure except the various statutory issues and real property laws and whatnot.
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Except you have the FREEDOM to not get married if you so choose. They want the OPTION to CHOOSE whether or not they get married.
/Farking dumbass
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FloydA: Nobody's really that stupid, are they?
Never underestimate the power of human stupidity, nor the desire to ingratiate with asinine offerings...
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FloydA: Nobody's really that stupid, are they?
Yes. Yes they are.
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ambassador_ahab: Wut?
Yes, this is clearly a desire to restrict freedom. Without a doubt. Makes 100% sense.
Isn't that what marriage is?
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I could be crazy.
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factoryconnection: Maybe I've been reading too much Fark, but did anyone else get a tongue-in-cheek tone while reading this one? "Once the movement became about self-sacrifice, it was bound to become popular" stuck out for me.
I could be crazy.
He deleted a comment I made asking if it was a belated April Fools prank, so you may be right. I hope so.
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FloydA: He deleted a comment I made asking if it was a belated April Fools prank, so you may be right. I hope so.
Hopefully; It is David Brooks, not some derp-o-sphere lunatic after all.
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FloydA: factoryconnection: Maybe I've been reading too much Fark, but did anyone else get a tongue-in-cheek tone while reading this one? "Once the movement became about self-sacrifice, it was bound to become popular" stuck out for me.
I could be crazy.
He deleted a comment I made asking if it was a belated April Fools prank, so you may be right. I hope so.
I see your comment.
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DarwiOdrade: FloydA: factoryconnection: Maybe I've been reading too much Fark, but did anyone else get a tongue-in-cheek tone while reading this one? "Once the movement became about self-sacrifice, it was bound to become popular" stuck out for me.
I could be crazy.
He deleted a comment I made asking if it was a belated April Fools prank, so you may be right. I hope so.
I see your comment.
Hmm, now it's there. Five minutes ago, it said "Zero Comments." Weird. Perhaps I've come unstuck in time.
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No? He just started when the gays wanted to do it, too?
Oh, so he's just a jackass. Okay.
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FloydA: Hmm, now it's there. Five minutes ago, it said "Zero Comments." Weird. Perhaps I've come unstuck in time.
I noticed it too. Takes a few seconds for the page to load the comments.
But if you have become unstuck in time, tell the Lutece twins I said hi.
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FloydA: Nobody's really that stupid, are they?
Yes. Yes, three are lots and lots and lots of people that are this stupid. Or will agree out of bigotry combined with the urge to troll.
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FloydA: Nobody's really that stupid, are they?
Fark would still just be a picture of a squirrel with huge balls if they they were not.
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FloydA: Nobody's really that stupid, are they?
People are that stupid, and more often than not they're even more stupid than that.
People are, by and large, greedy, selfish, stupid and insensitive beings. We're really a bunch of worthless meatsacks when all is said and done.
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Infernalist: So, I'm guessing this author has a long and storied history opposing military service, religion and marriage as limitations on personal freedom?
I wonder if he's married. Oh, the irony.
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timujin: Infernalist: So, I'm guessing this author has a long and storied history opposing military service, religion and marriage as limitations on personal freedom?
I wonder if he's married. Oh, the irony.
Or not living in a cabin in the woods, having gone for the full freedom abandoning societal participation eschews.
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