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RanDomino: Smells like bullshiat. Organizations like this one have been fronts for trying to gag liberal professors and help conservative teachers and students get away with all kinds of blatantly unfair shiat for several years now. Anyone know what the actual story is here?
I came here to say this. The source makes the story extra suspect. I mean, would FN even be reporting on this if it was, say, some liberal student who was just passing out copies of the Constitution?
/to the Google!
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Arkanaut: Actually you could sorta... Schenck vs. United States was partially overturned, IIRC.
I'm pretty sure it's only falsely shouting fire in a crowded theater is banned.
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RanDomino: Smells like bullshiat. Organizations like this one have been fronts for trying to gag liberal professors and help conservative teachers and students get away with all kinds of blatantly unfair shiat for several years now. Anyone know what the actual story is here?
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*When there's a fire.
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pueblonative: Arkanaut: Actually you could sorta... Schenck vs. United States was partially overturned, IIRC.
I'm pretty sure it's only falsely shouting fire in a crowded theater is banned.
It isnt even banned. It is just recognized that a 1st amendment defense is not going to fly when you get charged with about 20 different public endagerment statutes.
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Was the school in the wrong? Yes. But, this guy got free legal representation, and the school caved.
What pisses me off is the $50,000 settlement. Community Colleges typically have very tight budgets. To prove a point, this asshole has taken money away from providing education that allows people to better their lives. I would say taking the money actually lessens his cause because it makes it seem like he was just looking for a jackpot.
Community colleges provide a great public service, I don't see why people would want to fark with them. Taking courses at my CC allowed me to change from being a cashier to having a real career by learning marketable skills in less than 2 years with no debts.Currently my local community college is cutting backprogramsbecause of budget shortfalls; a 50K loss would be a significant blow to the school. I'm sure this is taking money away from Modesto Community College that could be used to educate students.
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RanDomino: Smells like bullshiat. Organizations like this one have been fronts for trying to gag liberal professors and help conservative teachers and students get away with all kinds of blatantly unfair shiat for several years now. Anyone know what the actual story is here?
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RanDomino: "He has also appeared on various news shows, including Stossel on more than one occasion." (the FIRE guy, not Van Tuinen)
Yep, that's no real big surprise.
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manbart: What a sanctimonious asshole.
Was the school in the wrong? Yes. But, this guy got free legal representation, and the school caved.
What pisses me off is the $50,000 settlement. Community Colleges typically have very tight budgets. To prove a point, this asshole has taken money away from providing education that allows people to better their lives. I would say taking the money actually lessens his cause because it makes it seem like he was just looking for a jackpot.
Community colleges provide a great public service, I don't see why people would want to fark with them. Taking courses at my CC allowed me to change from being a cashier to having a real career by learning marketable skills in less than 2 years with no debts.Currently my local community college is cutting backprogramsbecause of budget shortfalls; a 50K loss would be a significant blow to the school. I'm sure this is taking money away from Modesto Community College that could be used to educate students.
The only way to make an organization change is by going after their wallet.
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manbart: What a sanctimonious asshole.
Was the school in the wrong? Yes. But, this guy got free legal representation, and the school caved.
What pisses me off is the $50,000 settlement. Community Colleges typically have very tight budgets. To prove a point, this asshole has taken money away from providing education that allows people to better their lives. I would say taking the money actually lessens his cause because it makes it seem like he was just looking for a jackpot.
Community colleges provide a great public service, I don't see why people would want to fark with them. Taking courses at my CC allowed me to change from being a cashier to having a real career by learning marketable skills in less than 2 years with no debts.Currently my local community college is cutting backprogramsbecause of budget shortfalls; a 50K loss would be a significant blow to the school. I'm sure this is taking money away from Modesto Community College that could be used to educate students.
So you are saying that because a company provides a good service, it should be able to violate the constitutional rights of people without punishment? They need to be fined because otherwise there is no deterrent for them pulling the same shiat again
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BMFPitt: manbart: What a sanctimonious asshole.
Was the school in the wrong? Yes. But, this guy got free legal representation, and the school caved.
What pisses me off is the $50,000 settlement. Community Colleges typically have very tight budgets. To prove a point, this asshole has taken money away from providing education that allows people to better their lives. I would say taking the money actually lessens his cause because it makes it seem like he was just looking for a jackpot.
Community colleges provide a great public service, I don't see why people would want to fark with them. Taking courses at my CC allowed me to change from being a cashier to having a real career by learning marketable skills in less than 2 years with no debts.Currently my local community college is cutting backprogramsbecause of budget shortfalls; a 50K loss would be a significant blow to the school. I'm sure this is taking money away from Modesto Community College that could be used to educate students.
The only way to make an organization change is by going after their wallet.
They already changed before the settlement.
Community colleges do not have deep pockets, this settlement is affecting the community negatively. This guy is an ass IMO.
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Lost Thought 00: manbart: What a sanctimonious asshole.
Was the school in the wrong? Yes. But, this guy got free legal representation, and the school caved.
What pisses me off is the $50,000 settlement. Community Colleges typically have very tight budgets. To prove a point, this asshole has taken money away from providing education that allows people to better their lives. I would say taking the money actually lessens his cause because it makes it seem like he was just looking for a jackpot.
Community colleges provide a great public service, I don't see why people would want to fark with them. Taking courses at my CC allowed me to change from being a cashier to having a real career by learning marketable skills in less than 2 years with no debts.Currently my local community college is cutting backprogramsbecause of budget shortfalls; a 50K loss would be a significant blow to the school. I'm sure this is taking money away from Modesto Community College that could be used to educate students.
So you are saying that because a company provides a good service, it should be able to violate the constitutional rights of people without punishment? They need to be fined because otherwise there is no deterrent for them pulling the same shiat again
He got the school to agree to change their policy before the settlement.
Plus, is this really that important of a fight, really? People go there to learn, and better their lives. ISn't this in line with the conservative "pull one up by the bootstraps" philosophy?
This guy should stop being a jackass, take his classes and don't make trouble for an institution that provides a positive and accessible community service.
This whole thing just comes off as pure, snide assholery.
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Community colleges provide a great public service, I don't see why people would want to fark with them.
You probably just answered your own question.
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/nevermind, I know the answer
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RanDomino: manbart
Community colleges provide a great public service, I don't see why people would want to fark with them.
You probably just answered your own question.
Yeah, I bet this guy really wanted to fark with "those elitist liberal university professors" but had to settle for farking the community college over because it is available to all.
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So now Fox Propaganda has a problem with free speech zones. That'll last until the next time a Republican becomes president.
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manbart: He got the school to agree to change their policy before the settlement.
That's great. And tomorrow they will change their policy back. Without financial damages, there is no incentive for them to follow the settlement.
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Prank Monkey: I wonder if the people defending the community college supported the "free speech zones" when Bush was president?
/nevermind, I know the answer
Who's defending it? the college already back-pedaled before the settlement. No one is arguing in favor of this.
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