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  • Just dump the tax exempt status altogether for all churches.

    You can't single out a church of that size and pretend they're different than the others.
  • edmo: Just dump the tax exempt status altogether for all churches.

    You can't single out a church of that size and pretend they're different than the others.


    It's not about the size, but the political involvement.
  • Get a brian, mormons.
  • edmo: Just dump the tax exempt status altogether for all churches.

    You can't single out a church of that size and pretend they're different than the others.


    You CAN single them out because they do things like build the City Creek shopping mall in Salt Lake as a business INVESTMENT using church assets to do it.
  • edmo: Just dump the tax exempt status altogether for all churches.

    You can't single out a church of that size and pretend they're different than the others.


    This should be an issue for Trump. He's the least-religious President that I've heard of. Nobody else would touch the issue.
  • DRTFA but I wonder if this covers the other flying saucer religion, or are they afraid of Xenus DC9 spacecraft?
  • edmo: Just dump the tax exempt status altogether for all churches.

    You can't single out a church of that size and pretend they're different than the others.


    Came to say something similar to this. Im looking at Joel Osteen and churches of the like.
  • Ah, this makes me reflect joyfully at the thoughts of our struggling lower middle class family not being able to afford school clothes because they were giving ten percent of their income to the church.
    Crank out the big families they said, it will be fine! The Mormon Jesus will be there for you. And he was...nt.
  • Sapper_Topo: edmo: Just dump the tax exempt status altogether for all churches.

    You can't single out a church of that size and pretend they're different than the others.

    Came to say something similar to this. Im looking at Joel Osteen and churches of the like.


    Do away with the tax-exempt status for ALL churches.
  • Sapper_Topo: edmo: Just dump the tax exempt status altogether for all churches.

    You can't single out a church of that size and pretend they're different than the others.

    Came to say something similar to this. Im looking at Joel Osteen and churches of the like.


    You are going to close the doors of a lot of little churches if you do this. A congregation of 50 people means they are already having a hard time keeping the lights on and maintaining their buildings. Of course, they aren't in a position to try to influence elections by pouring money into campaigns either.
  • I remember my parent sending me and my sister to a Mormon Church 3 times a week, she sent us because the church paid our rent and we got free groceries. They do take care of their own, but they treated us like shiat cause we were the "poor kids".
  • So since each little family of lds folks may have their own profit and be considered their own little church, does this mean that they'd all be living tax expempt as well?
  • The church takes in huge amounts of money from its three to five million regular members through tithing, various offerings, subscriptions to church magazines, and then there are the books and magic underwear sales.  Church also pressures elderly members to leave significant portions of their estates to the church, instead of family.  Mormon church only pays the top leadership in Salt Lake city, people called General Authorities, and mission presidents, while going to great lengths to hide the fact that these men are paid.  Pay check stubs have surfaced for Mormon apostles recently, revealing that they make 120,000 dollars a year, plus possibly more for their work as the board of directors for all the church owned businesses.

    With small overhead, the church pours billions of dollars of profit into its various owned corporations, cattle ranches, malls, for profit colleges, ext.  These billions of dollars grow into even more money.  Church then builds lots and lots of chapels and temples, and it has been speculated that the contracts for these buildings are awarded in somewhat interesting ways.

    The church hire ups do put a lot of money back into their church, and into some charitable programs, but there is this great game where the money is always moving around, members are not allowed to know where it goes, and everyone pretends that no one is paid, and a couple years ago someone leaked a training manual for mission presidents on how to hide their income so it didn't have to be reported to the tax authorities.
  • They seriously think they can remain tax-exempt with what they're doing? These guys are totally tripping.
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    Joseph Campbell said something about this a long time ago. It's in the Power of Myth book which is at least 30 yeas old by now. I can't find the exact quote even though I have the book, but it was something about how for years, the biggest, tallest building in Salt Lake City was the Mormon temple. It was supposed to be--symbol of how important the religion was in their citizen's lives, or something. Now, the tallest building in Salt Lake City is the financial center that administers the Church.

    I don't know if that's still true, but you know. We get it.
  • ChrisDe: edmo: Just dump the tax exempt status altogether for all churches.

    You can't single out a church of that size and pretend they're different than the others.

    This should be an issue for Trump. He's the least-religious President that I've heard of. Nobody else would touch the issue.


    Except that all Federal tax legislation must originate in the House - the Derpzone.
  • Old_Chief_Scott: Sapper_Topo: edmo: Just dump the tax exempt status altogether for all churches.

    You can't single out a church of that size and pretend they're different than the others.

    Came to say something similar to this. Im looking at Joel Osteen and churches of the like.

    You are going to close the doors of a lot of little churches if you do this. A congregation of 50 people means they are already having a hard time keeping the lights on and maintaining their buildings. Of course, they aren't in a position to try to influence elections by pouring money into campaigns either.


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  • JDJoeE: DRTFA but I wonder if this covers the other flying saucer religion, or are they afraid of Xenus DC9 spacecraft?


    still can't believe scientology ever received tax exempt status as a 'religion'... it would be interesting to see which congressmen got bought to approve that and how much they got.
  • I've lived here in Utah for almost 30 years.  But honestly, I'm sick and tired of the fact that the Mormon church pays no taxes, while their members push out dozens of children that they don't have to pay for, thanks to tax breaks.  And don't get me started on the fact that not a single law get passed here without their Jesusy Stamp Of Approval.

    I have no children.  You should see what I pay in state income taxes alone, considering ALL of the state income tax gathered is used to pay for our schools.  Thus, even though I have no children, I'm paying for everyone else's kids to go to school.

    I'm all for publicly funded education, but goddamnit, if you have kids, you should pay your share.

     And don't get me started on the fact that not a single law get passed here without their Jesusy Stamp Of Approval.  Separation of Church and State my beautiful bedazzled bunghole. This is a theocracy, plain and simple.

    People wonder why my husband and I are seriously talking about selling the house and moving west.
  • They invested those golden plates at just the right time.
  • edmo: Just dump the tax exempt status altogether for all churches.

    You can't single out a church of that size and pretend they're different than the others.


    Ditto
  • Eli WhiskeyDik: Sapper_Topo: edmo: Just dump the tax exempt status altogether for all churches.

    You can't single out a church of that size and pretend they're different than the others.

    Came to say something similar to this. Im looking at Joel Osteen and churches of the like.

    Do away with the tax-exempt status for ALL churches.


    Seems like an awful lot of windmills to tilt at.
  • Old_Chief_Scott: Sapper_Topo: edmo: Just dump the tax exempt status altogether for all churches.

    You can't single out a church of that size and pretend they're different than the others.

    Came to say something similar to this. Im looking at Joel Osteen and churches of the like.

    You are going to close the doors of a lot of little churches if you do this. A congregation of 50 people means they are already having a hard time keeping the lights on and maintaining their buildings. Of course, they aren't in a position to try to influence elections by pouring money into campaigns either.


    If that's the case their days are numbered anyway besides which business taxes only apply to profits, if they are barely above water the taxes would be negligible.
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