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  • We can certainly see what passes for a dedication to higher education in the flyover states.
    I bet Jesus is Lord God and Savior out that way. Too.
    How's that working out for you, Michigan?
    Bringing up the nation's new braintrust?
  • College Football is basically their own thing; only incidentally related to the universities that spawned them.
  • dv-ous: College Football is basically their own thing; only incidentally related to the universities that spawned them.


    Not just football. Lute Olson, the basketball coach at University of Arizona, was (by FAR) the highest-paid state employee in Arizona when I was there.
  • Your tuition dollars at work.
  • Walker: Your tuition dollars at work.


    No, the money that the football program earned. At schools like Michigan tuition money isn't used to support the football team, they support themselves.
  • ongbok: Walker: Your tuition dollars at work.

    No, the money that the football program earned. At schools like Michigan tuition money isn't used to support the football team, they support themselves.


    Yeah not really at almost every University, that is what student activity fees etc are for, plus when a donor is asked for an academic building or a sports building where do you think those (limited) dollars end up.  Sports suck money from academics period.
  • interstellar_tedium: ongbok: Walker: Your tuition dollars at work.

    No, the money that the football program earned. At schools like Michigan tuition money isn't used to support the football team, they support themselves.

    Yeah not really at almost every University, that is what student activity fees etc are for, plus when a donor is asked for an academic building or a sports building where do you think those (limited) dollars end up.  Sports suck money from academics period.


    At most universities. There are several (Michigan included) where they generate a profit for the university. Hell, at THE Ohio State University, Football and Men's Basketball generate so much money, it not only covers itself, but it also pays for every other sport and generates money for the university.
  • jayphat: interstellar_tedium: ongbok: Walker: Your tuition dollars at work.

    No, the money that the football program earned. At schools like Michigan tuition money isn't used to support the football team, they support themselves.

    Yeah not really at almost every University, that is what student activity fees etc are for, plus when a donor is asked for an academic building or a sports building where do you think those (limited) dollars end up.  Sports suck money from academics period.

    At most universities. There are several (Michigan included) where they generate a profit for the university. Hell, at THE Ohio State University, Football and Men's Basketball generate so much money, it not only covers itself, but it also pays for every other sport and generates money for the university.


    You would be surprised at the funny accounting to show that "profit", and I have worked (and not as a janitor) at 2 big time D-I programs one of which is supposed to pull in big bucks so I have seen this in action.
  • You want opulence? OREGON DUCKS
  • Well if the physics students want to use the weight room then they should let the football players play with the super powerful industrial lasers. Fair subby?
  • That 5000 sqft mezzanine is the most important part of the whole thing.  That's where they have cocktail parties and tail gate parties for wealthy boosters overlooking the other 27,000 sqft.
  • Um... 5000 square feet isn't much larger than some cell phone stores. That's not a lot of space for a football team with 100+ members officially on its roster.
  • vudukungfu: We can certainly see what passes for a dedication to higher education in the flyover states.


    Yeah, there's no colleges on the west coast that (over) spend millions on athletics at the cost of real students.

    http://www.forbes.com/sites/aliciajes​sop/2013/08/31/the-economics-of-​c​ollege-football-a-look-at-the-top-25-t​eams-revenues-and-expenses/#6647​f3aa2023

    There are flyover colleges on there, but also many notable not in the hated flyover areas.
  • Just let us be happy you elitist pricks.
  • vudukungfu: flyover states


    Don't be an asshole.
  • mjbok: vudukungfu: We can certainly see what passes for a dedication to higher education in the flyover states.

    Yeah, there's no colleges on the west coast that (over) spend millions on athletics at the cost of real students.

    http://www.forbes.com/sites/aliciajess​op/2013/08/31/the-economics-of-c​ollege-football-a-look-at-the-top-25-t​eams-revenues-and-expenses/#6647​f3aa2023

    There are flyover colleges on there, but also many notable not in the hated flyover areas.


    But I was assured by the evolved tolerant people in New York and California that people living in the flyover hellholes are stupid violent bigots who should be exterminated for the good of humanity...
  • ecmoRandomNumbers: dv-ous: College Football is basically their own thing; only incidentally related to the universities that spawned them.

    Not just football. Lute Olson, the basketball coach at University of Arizona, was (by FAR) the highest-paid state employee in Arizona when I was there.


    Because of his endorsement deals, not what the University was paying him.  Coaches make crazy money from those because they have a monopoly.  Because fark you players!
  • vudukungfu: We can certainly see what passes for a dedication to higher education in the flyover states.
    I bet Jesus is Lord God and Savior out that way. Too.
    How's that working out for you, Michigan?
    Bringing up the nation's new braintrust?


     Go back to San Diego State,  dweeb.
  • clkeagle: Um... 5000 square feet isn't much larger than some cell phone stores. That's not a lot of space for a football team with 100+ members officially on its roster.


    Huh. Plenty of farkers DNRTFA. Not sure I've ever seen someone not make it through the headline.
  • 12349876: ecmoRandomNumbers: dv-ous: College Football is basically their own thing; only incidentally related to the universities that spawned them.

    Not just football. Lute Olson, the basketball coach at University of Arizona, was (by FAR) the highest-paid state employee in Arizona when I was there.

    Because of his endorsement deals, not what the University was paying him.  Coaches make crazy money from those because they have a monopoly.  Because fark you players!


    His salary was almost $700,000 out of the ~$1M he made in 2001. His salary was the bulk of his income, not endorsement. Our college president made somewhere around a quarter million.
  • Maybe for $21 million they can beat Appalachian state.
  • Do mega-football programs at the "football factory" universities ever open their facilities up for public tours? I'd love to see the leather-chair lounges, the gold-plated shower stalls and the oak-paneled weight rooms that some of these places surely have. LSU? USC? Bama? Ohio State?
  • And you wonder what's wrong with America?
  • BlazeTrailer: clkeagle: Um... 5000 square feet isn't much larger than some cell phone stores. That's not a lot of space for a football team with 100+ members officially on its roster.

    Huh. Plenty of farkers DNRTFA. Not sure I've ever seen someone not make it through the headline.


    The point is, 32,000 square feet isn't an outrageous size for such a facility, and 5,000 is too small.  5,000 square feet is just slightly larger than the area of a football end zone.  There's no way you'd fit weight equipment and 50-100 players comfortably in such a space.

    Now, if you want to argue that building the facility at all is outrageous, that's a separate argument.
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