Maddow went about this all wrong, the tweet should've said "interesting details about Donald trumps tax plan, hear about it tonight". And the first half of the show should have described the two major points that benefit Trump, eliminating the estate tax and the alternative minimum tax. Then she should have explained what these taxes are, and the income level of the people that pay them.
Then she has the big reveal, that she has his 2005 returns, and while he did pay 25%, if not for the alternative minimum tax (which he wants to abolish), his percentage would've dropped to around 3%. A rate that USA fraction of what middle class Americans are paying.
Ideally you break the story right as they begin working on tax reform.
Ok tax lesson time. Is the AMT being repealed going to reduce d income tax for that person to next to nothing? My understanding is that the AMT is a way to pay taxes on certain amounts over a certain threshold. And you compare which is the higher rate AMT or regular tax.
So, if my recollection is right, then the amount he paid under the AMT would still be taxed just t a lower rate. Not the 3% rate though.
/Never paid the AMT but have had to run the numbers both ways a few times. Maybe I'm way off.
hobbes0022 went about this all wrong, the post should've said "interesting details about Rachel maddows trump tax reveal, read about it in a forthcoming post". And the first half of the forthcoming post should have bla bla bla
Pocket Ninja:Maddow does deserve mockery and scorn for that shiatshow. A lot of it.
I don't get it. She tweeted before the show that she had the 1040 portion of his 2005 return, and people are acting like it was some kind of bait and switch. It isn't her fault if you weren't paying attention.
Also, Colbert had her gestures and mannerisms spot on. He and Rachel should take that show on the road.
It quickly got over hyped, and looking back, you can tell she realized this. I don't think she spent so long setting it up for context or stalling, but because she and the show realized that they had nothing and possibly got played. So instead, she tried to detract from the tax return itself and instead use it to emphasize the significance of Trump not releasing all (or more recent) returns and why we need to see them.
It was doomed to fail by the time the show started, but an attempt was made.
Nothing but a ratings stunt by Maddow, and another example of the fecklessness of what passes for a left-wing in the US today. We've got rule of Trump because of 'leftists' like Maddow....people who are incapable of acting like adults and concentrating on serious issues. America has had enough of the left's nonstop cacophony over public toilet 'equality' and pussy marches.
Fissile:Nothing but a ratings stunt by Maddow, and another example of the fecklessness of what passes for a left-wing in the US today. We've got rule of Trump because of 'leftists' like Maddow....people who are incapable of acting like adults and concentrating on serious issues. America has had enough of the left's nonstop cacophony over public toilet 'equality' and pussy marches.
Fissile:Nothing but a ratings stunt by Maddow, and another example of the fecklessness of what passes for a left-wing in the US today. We've got rule of Trump because of 'leftists' like Maddow....people who are incapable of acting like adults and concentrating on serious issues. America has had enough of the left's nonstop cacophony over public toilet 'equality' and pussy marches.
Headso:If only conservatives were as concerned about their president as much as they are about a political pundit on a 24 hour news network.
I doubt there were a whole lot of conservatives excitedly waiting for Maddow to reveal Trump's tax return, only to find out she was peddling an empty ratings grab. It was anti-Trump people who were let down.
Pocket Ninja:Maddow does deserve mockery and scorn for that shiatshow. A lot of it.
I disagree. She gets to decide how she curates her show and she doesn't want it to be some instant gratification televised buzzfeed global mail nonsense. She wants to inform her viewers, including potentially low education viewers who need more background on topics to understand them.
If you want to make fun of somebody, make fun of that senator from Oklahoma who started rambling incoherently after being informed that the EPA regulated fracking in his state and that there is actual evidence fracking causes earthquakes.
Fissile:Nothing but a ratings stunt by Maddow, and another example of the fecklessness of what passes for a left-wing in the US today. We've got rule of Trump because of 'leftists' like Maddow....people who are incapable of acting like adults and concentrating on serious issues. America has had enough of the left's nonstop cacophony over public toilet 'equality' and pussy marches.
Someone's feeling all feisty after yesterday's Trumper rally
Fissile:Nothing but a ratings stunt by Maddow, and another example of the fecklessness of what passes for a left-wing in the US today. We've got rule of Trump because of 'leftists' like Maddow....people who are incapable of acting like adults and concentrating on serious issues. America has had enough of the left's nonstop cacophony over public toilet 'equality' and pussy marches.
So we should defund the EPA, NWS\NOAA, public schools, science, etc.?
Then she has the big reveal, that she has his 2005 returns, and while he did pay 25%, if not for the alternative minimum tax (which he wants to abolish), his percentage would've dropped to around 3%. A rate that USA fraction of what middle class Americans are paying.
Ideally you break the story right as they begin working on tax reform.
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RminusQ: Hey did anyone hear about how Maddow went about this all wrong?
No, because the same comment hasn't been self-fellatingly posted in at least 2 other threads...
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So, if my recollection is right, then the amount he paid under the AMT would still be taxed just t a lower rate. Not the 3% rate though.
/Never paid the AMT but have had to run the numbers both ways a few times. Maybe I'm way off.
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Pocket Ninja: Maddow does deserve mockery and scorn for that shiatshow. A lot of it.
Interesting. Care to elaborate?
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Pocket Ninja: Maddow does deserve mockery and scorn for that shiatshow. A lot of it.
Can't she just make a few cutesy faces and repeat herself a dozen times and then we can drop it?
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Pocket Ninja: Maddow does deserve mockery and scorn for that shiatshow. A lot of it.
We are in a post-context society, apparently.
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Pocket Ninja: Maddow does deserve mockery and scorn for that shiatshow. A lot of it.
I don't get it. She tweeted before the show that she had the 1040 portion of his 2005 return, and people are acting like it was some kind of bait and switch. It isn't her fault if you weren't paying attention.
Also, Colbert had her gestures and mannerisms spot on. He and Rachel should take that show on the road.
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It was doomed to fail by the time the show started, but an attempt was made.
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Fissile: Nothing but a ratings stunt by Maddow, and another example of the fecklessness of what passes for a left-wing in the US today. We've got rule of Trump because of 'leftists' like Maddow....people who are incapable of acting like adults and concentrating on serious issues. America has had enough of the left's nonstop cacophony over public toilet 'equality' and pussy marches.
This is how you do satire folks.
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Fissile: Nothing but a ratings stunt by Maddow, and another example of the fecklessness of what passes for a left-wing in the US today. We've got rule of Trump because of 'leftists' like Maddow....people who are incapable of acting like adults and concentrating on serious issues. America has had enough of the left's nonstop cacophony over public toilet 'equality' and pussy marches.
It's this serious? I can't tell anymore.
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Headso: If only conservatives were as concerned about their president as much as they are about a political pundit on a 24 hour news network.
I doubt there were a whole lot of conservatives excitedly waiting for Maddow to reveal Trump's tax return, only to find out she was peddling an empty ratings grab. It was anti-Trump people who were let down.
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Pocket Ninja: Maddow does deserve mockery and scorn for that shiatshow. A lot of it.
I disagree. She gets to decide how she curates her show and she doesn't want it to be some instant gratification televised buzzfeed global mail nonsense. She wants to inform her viewers, including potentially low education viewers who need more background on topics to understand them.
If you want to make fun of somebody, make fun of that senator from Oklahoma who started rambling incoherently after being informed that the EPA regulated fracking in his state and that there is actual evidence fracking causes earthquakes.
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Fissile: Nothing but a ratings stunt by Maddow, and another example of the fecklessness of what passes for a left-wing in the US today. We've got rule of Trump because of 'leftists' like Maddow....people who are incapable of acting like adults and concentrating on serious issues. America has had enough of the left's nonstop cacophony over public toilet 'equality' and pussy marches.
Someone's feeling all feisty after yesterday's Trumper rally
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Fissile: Nothing but a ratings stunt by Maddow, and another example of the fecklessness of what passes for a left-wing in the US today. We've got rule of Trump because of 'leftists' like Maddow....people who are incapable of acting like adults and concentrating on serious issues. America has had enough of the left's nonstop cacophony over public toilet 'equality' and pussy marches.
So we should defund the EPA, NWS\NOAA, public schools, science, etc.?
The Dark Ages indeed.
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