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  • Prosecutors office in New Jersey are reviewing a video filmed by a man who caught a plainclothes law enforcement officer searching through his parked minivan, apparently without permission.

    Presumably, in an attempt to find a means of charging the man who recorded the officer with a crime.
  • The sheriff's office would not identify the officer

    Farking trash.
  • holdmybones: The sheriff's office would not identify the officer

    Farking trash.


    To add on...

    I mean, meathead asshole with man bun. How hard could it be to identify?
  • holdmybones: The sheriff's office would not identify the officer

    Farking trash.


    A guy with a man bun probably UC hey criminals in Jersey here you go, don't sell drugs to this guy.
  • FTA: "we're getting a lot of complaints about guns,"

    . . .and that doesn't give you the right to make random warrantless searches of peoples vehicles.

    I don't know NJ gun laws, but in KY it's perfectly legal to keep a gun in your vehicle, as long as it's secured in a factory-installed compartment (i.e. glove box or center console).
  • Asshole is a thief caught in the act

    His job will soon be forbye
  • He was just looking for cash to place under arrest.  That cash stuff can be dangerous.
  • Silverstaff: I don't know NJ gun laws


    New Jersey hates guns with the blazing passion of a million suns.

    /this is only a slight exaggeration
  • There are several lawful reasons why a cop can search a vehicle without a warrant, but this incident doesn't appear to contain any of them. If the cop actually had a reason for a warrantless search, why didn't he explain that to the vehicle's owner instead of stopping his search and walking away? My guess would be that the guy is known to the cops and the cop was doing an unconstitutional exploratory search expecting to find something incriminating. Would have been interesting to see how he explained the search is he had found something.
  • The 4th amendment is just about dead.
  • Hello, Patterson, where you're really at a legal disadvantage being black.
  • CruiserTwelve: There are several lawful reasons why a cop can search a vehicle without a warrant, but this incident doesn't appear to contain any of them. If the cop actually had a reason for a warrantless search, why didn't he explain that to the vehicle's owner instead of stopping his search and walking away? My guess would be that the guy is known to the cops and the cop was doing an unconstitutional exploratory search expecting to find something incriminating. Would have been interesting to see how he explained the search is he had found something.


    Because he didn't have a reason, and throwing in the explanation for the search exemptions into the article would have taken quite a while and turned it from a brief news article and into a course in search & seizure law.

    As for explaining the search if he found something, I'm sure he would have said something about smelling marijuana (if he found some drugs) or he thought he saw a gun in plain sight (when he actually dug it up out of a compartment or container), to have it fit the "Plain view" doctrine for a warrantless search.
  • CruiserTwelve: There are several lawful reasons why a cop can search a vehicle without a warrant, but this incident doesn't appear to contain any of them. If the cop actually had a reason for a warrantless search, why didn't he explain that to the vehicle's owner instead of stopping his search and walking away? My guess would be that the guy is known to the cops and the cop was doing an unconstitutional exploratory search expecting to find something incriminating. Would have been interesting to see how he explained the search is he had found something.


    Had he found something interesting would he have been able to lie and make his search acceptable under one of the justifications you referenced (honest question as I don't know the cases where it's allowed)? I mean, if he was ok with doing an illegal search is lying about it to make it ok much of a stretch?

    Also, that UC's body language was criminal as hell, right? If someone acted like that when you approached them would you be more or less suspicious?
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    He laughed. Arrest him.
  • CruiserTwelve: There are several lawful reasons why a cop can search a vehicle without a warrant, but this incident doesn't appear to contain any of them. If the cop actually had a reason for a warrantless search, why didn't he explain that to the vehicle's owner instead of stopping his search and walking away? My guess would be that the guy is known to the cops and the cop was doing an unconstitutional exploratory search expecting to find something incriminating. Would have been interesting to see how he explained the search is he had found something.


    He would have lied. Like most cops.
  • CruiserTwelve: There are several lawful reasons why a cop can search a vehicle without a warrant, but this incident doesn't appear to contain any of them. If the cop actually had a reason for a warrantless search, why didn't he explain that to the vehicle's owner instead of stopping his search and walking away? My guess would be that the guy is known to the cops and the cop was doing an unconstitutional exploratory search expecting to find something incriminating. Would have been interesting to see how he explained the search is he had found something.


    Even if he found something, it would be completely inadmissible. I could understand if there was a missing child or something like that; but, it seems like the officer conducted a random illegal search for no apparent reason.
  • Plainclothes police should not have legal authority.

    No uniform, no legal powers.
  • Doesn't matter, pig cops and crooked DAs will figure out a way to make it legal.
  • I always thought that if your house or car was unlocked the police could say they were just making sure everything was secure. It's inadmissible if they find something, but they can access and search.

    I'm obviously not a lawyer. Is that remotely true?
  • Of course you have the right to refuse to be searched. It just means you may be refused certain services, like travel.

    If you don't want to be bound by the laws of this country, you always have the right to leave and go somewhere else.
  • The problem is they keep moving the "unreasonable" goalpost. "Probable cause" is a sham cops use that means "because I farking felt like it".
  • When the Attorney General himself is a Russian stooge, where is the rule of law?
  • Prey4reign: Hello, Patterson, where you're really at a legal disadvantage being black.


    Was it a black van? I couldn't tell.
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