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  • Well, yeah, only cops can get away with shooting at a suicidal man 12 times.
  • davidphogan: Well, yeah, only cops can get away with shooting at a suicidal man 12 times.


    And only hitting him three times!

    Also this Brown fellow sounds way too trigger-happy to be a cop, imo.
  • They foiled the suicide attempt and killed the suspect. Case closed.
  • Take someone who can't get a job anywhere else, give them six months training, a badge and a gun, tell them they can shoot the fark out of anyone with impunity (colourds are +10 points) and you might see a little of this.
  • When you call Trooper Shooty McBrown to the scene, what do you expect?
  • fusillade762: davidphogan: Well, yeah, only cops can get away with shooting at a suicidal man 12 times.

    And only hitting him three times!

    Also this Brown fellow sounds way too trigger-happy to be a cop, imo.


    It's getting harder and harder to retire after just 20 years, but if you shoot a guy in the line of duty there's a fair chance of getting disability. Apparently it's also a way out of all that shooting target practice that you never really liked.
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    It's a good thing Bart was sent to Rockridge, not Williston.
  • "When Gregware's car was spotted, Brown and Richmond Cpl. Richard Greenough stopped the vehicle. Gregware got out of his car and walked toward the officers, ignoring repeated demands that he drop the weapon, a machine pistol commonly known as a Mac-10."


    So what should the cops have done?
  • CruiserTwelve: "When Gregware's car was spotted, Brown and Richmond Cpl. Richard Greenough stopped the vehicle. Gregware got out of his car and walked toward the officers, ignoring repeated demands that he drop the weapon, a machine pistol commonly known as a Mac-10."


    So what should the cops have done?


    PEW PEW PEW of course.
  • Farking Clown Shoes: PEW PEW PEW of course.


    That was a serious question. Given the circumstances - a guy with a Mac-10 pointed at his head and walking toward you next to a busy highway, refusing to follow your commands - do you believe that this should put enough reasonable belief in a cop's mind that this guy is a deadly threat to themselves or others as to justify shooting him?

    So what do you believe the cops should have done?
  • Maybe not be so close to the mentally ill man to start with?
  • Mission Accomplished
  • davidphogan: Well, yeah, only cops can get away with shooting at a suicidal man 12 times.


    Well, at least killing suicidal people can, with a hefty dose of sophistry, fall under the "Serve" part of the police mission statement.
  • fusillade762: davidphogan: Well, yeah, only cops can get away with shooting at a suicidal man 12 times.

    And only hitting him three times!

    Also this Brown fellow sounds way too trigger-happy to be a cop, imo.


    And in suicidal circles, he is the tooth fairy.
  • CruiserTwelve: Farking Clown Shoes: PEW PEW PEW of course.

    That was a serious question. Given the circumstances - a guy with a Mac-10 pointed at his head and walking toward you next to a busy highway, refusing to follow your commands - do you believe that this should put enough reasonable belief in a cop's mind that this guy is a deadly threat to themselves or others as to justify shooting him?

    So what do you believe the cops should have done?


    I strongly advocate that police who kill unarmed citizens should be executed publicly, but when a guy has a Mac-10?  I'll allow it.

    He was mentally ill? Yeah, no kiddin'.  That's what the Stoics called a Sucks Donut
  • CruiserTwelve: Farking Clown Shoes: PEW PEW PEW of course.

    That was a serious question. Given the circumstances - a guy with a Mac-10 pointed at his head and walking toward you next to a busy highway, refusing to follow your commands - do you believe that this should put enough reasonable belief in a cop's mind that this guy is a deadly threat to themselves or others as to justify shooting him?


    I'm pretty confused as to someone being DTS the proper LEO resolution being to kill them to prevent further deadly threat to themselves. Grant you, it's one of those sorts of resolutions to an issue that in engineering we call a "trivial solution". He can't, of course, continue to be be a threat to himself if he's dead. Having been killed, he can definitely no longer kill himself. Is this what you're proposing as a practical solution?

    I'm all about trivial solutions - they are often the only definite resolution to something despite people's disdain for me bringing them up. For example, if there ARE no residents in the Middle East, then all the Middle Eastern issues are resolved. So killing everyone indiscriminately with a biological is a fine, efficient answer to future war in the ME, fits all the war game constraints and goals and ends the issue with minimal involvement or loss. Didn't go over as a solution.

    I'm not sure the "If they're threatening to kill themselves, they won't be able to if we bravely kill them first" trivial solution is a valid answer either. It sure solves the end goal of the guy not committing suicide. But it's one of those things I don't think you can sell as a useful answer.
  • CruiserTwelve: Farking Clown Shoes: PEW PEW PEW of course.

    That was a serious question. Given the circumstances - a guy with a Mac-10 pointed at his head and walking toward you next to a busy highway, refusing to follow your commands - do you believe that this should put enough reasonable belief in a cop's mind that this guy is a deadly threat to themselves or others as to justify shooting him?

    So what do you believe the cops should have done?


    Three cops..none has a taser?

    Try that first at least.
  • Mark Ratner: They foiled the suicide attempt and killed the suspect. Case closed.


    Really, if they are going to shoot someone multiple times, you'd rather they shoot someone who's suicidal than someone who isn't, right?

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  • Langdon_777: Maybe not be so close to the mentally ill man to start with?


    police either don't know and/or don't care if a citizen is mentally ill. psychiatrists advise clients to keep this in mind. which is weird logic if you're the mentally ill one.
  • Mugato: Take someone who can't get a job anywhere else, give them six months training, a badge and a gun, tell them they can shoot the fark out of anyone with impunity (colourds are +10 points) and you might see a little of this.


    Trooper Brown

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  • The more you eat the more you fart: Three cops..none has a taser?

    Try that first at least.


    Against a nut with a submachine gun?
  • CruiserTwelve: "When Gregware's car was spotted, Brown and Richmond Cpl. Richard Greenough stopped the vehicle. Gregware got out of his car and walked toward the officers, ignoring repeated demands that he drop the weapon, a machine pistol commonly known as a Mac-10."


    So what should the cops have done?


    Trying to talk to the guy calmly? I bet that the only communication was DROP THE GUN DROP THE GUN DROP THE GUN BLAM BLAM  BLAM  BLAM  BLAM  BLAM  BLAM  BLAM  BLAM  BLAM  BLAM  BLAM

    Considering he wasn't aiming at them or others, how about a taser? How about a single shot to disarm instead of 12?

    Oh right, US cops aren't German cops. They don't do single shots to disarm/disable.
  • My own local PD is doing "welfare checks" on a case by case basis.  Because, technically, it's not illegal to kill oneself and they just tend to put officers at risk.  This is a new policy after the cops killed a few people over the Christmas holidays.
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    It's a good thing Bart was sent to Rockridge, not Williston.


    "Isn't anyone going to help that man?"
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